Relation between velocity and force

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between force and velocity in the context of a car's motion. Participants explore how force influences velocity, particularly in rectilinear motion, and reference Newton's laws of motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant posits that to make a car move, a force is required, and questions whether an increase in velocity is due to a larger force acting on the car.
  • Another participant confirms that a net force must act on a body to change its velocity, although they express uncertainty about the original question.
  • A participant asks for the formula to calculate the force associated with an increase in velocity.
  • One participant states the formula F=ma, suggesting it applies to the situation, while another questions its applicability to rectilinear motion versus circular motion.
  • There is a contention regarding the validity of the acceleration formula a = v^2/r, with some participants asserting that Newton's second law applies to all classical motion, not just circular motion.
  • A later reply emphasizes that force does not have a direct relationship with velocity, but rather with acceleration, and discusses how forces affect a car's motion when gas is applied or released.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between force and velocity, with some asserting that force is related to acceleration rather than velocity directly. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the application of Newton's laws to different types of motion.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the applicability of certain formulas to different types of motion, and the definitions of terms like velocity and acceleration are not fully clarified.

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Ok, so here's the question. To make a car move, we need a force, however, the velocity of the car is related to force? By example, we made a force to make the car start moving and the car started moving with a velocity of 10m/s. Then later the car has a velocity of 20m/s. So, the increase of the velocity is caused by a bigger force pushing the car? Cos, i do know that if the car is moving, then it has the tendence to keep moving with a constant velocity, it can only be stopped with a force in the opposite way to make it stop, so to make it go faster, then there's a force pushing it to go faster?
 
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I'm not sure that I entirely understand your question, but yes, to change an body's velocity there must be a net force acting on that body.
 
ok, and what's the formula to find the force used in the increase of velocity? thanks by the answer gived by the way.
 
Er... F=ma!

Zz.
 
but that's when a = v^2/r in a circular movement. and on a rectilineous movement?
 
animespt said:
but that's when a = v^2/r in a circular movement. and on a rectilineous movement?
Newton's second law can be applied to any classical motion, when rectilinear or curvilinear.

I just want to make sure that you know that the equation for acceleration that you quoted is only valid for circular motion.
 
animespt said:
but that's when a = v^2/r in a circular movement. and on a rectilineous movement?

What?

Since when is F=ma only valid in circular motion?

Zz.
 
I also want to make sure you understand how Newton's first law applies to a car: the car decelerates when you take your foot off the gas pedal because there are forces acting to decelerate it. And when you add more gas, the car accelerates to a new equilbrium with its opposing forces. Force has no direct relationship with velocity, only acceleration.
 

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