Relationship between Angular and Tangential Velocities in Rotating Gears

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between angular and tangential velocities in the context of rotating gears connected by a belt. Participants explore the implications of this relationship in engineering and physics applications, particularly focusing on how these velocities interact when one gear is driven by a motor.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • David questions the relationship between angular and tangential velocities for two gears of different sizes connected by a belt, noting that angular velocity is constant across points on a rotating disk while tangential velocity varies with radius.
  • One participant suggests finding a relationship based on arc lengths, implying a connection between the two gears.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the linear speed of the belt remains constant if there is no slipping, which connects the two gears.
  • A later reply confirms that the tangential velocity is the same for both gears, as the speed of the belt is uniform along its length.
  • David expresses gratitude for the clarification regarding tangential velocity, noting the lack of theoretical explanations in his textbooks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the tangential velocity is the relevant factor in the relationship between the two gears, although there is some exploration of the angular velocity concept. No consensus is reached on a singular definitive explanation, as the discussion remains exploratory.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the behavior of gears and belts without delving into specific mathematical formulations or assumptions that may affect the relationship discussed. The conversation does not resolve the complexities of angular velocity in different contexts.

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Hello. I have what I hope to be a simple question. It's something that I've come across in several problems in my engineering and physics subjects and I'm not sure exactly what relationship applies. My textbook doesn't seem to be very helpful in the matter.

When there are two circles, I suppose you could call them gears, of different sizes with a belt wrapped around them, what is the relationship between their velocity? I'm talking about both their angular and tangential velocities.

I know that in a rotating disc the angular velocity will be the same at each point on the disk but the tangetial velocity will change as you change your radius from the centre of the disk.

I have a feeling that either the tangential or angular velocity will be the same for these two disks attached by the belt with 1 of them being turned by a motor and, in turn, turning the other.

This isn't a homework problem but I've attached a simple example diagram with simple numbers to illustrate my question. Here it is the smaller disk being turned by the motor at a given angular velocity and I'd like to know what I can therefore infer about the larger disk.

Thank you kindly in advance for your help,

David.
 

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Find a relationship between the arc lengths.
 
AussieDave said:
I have a feeling that either the tangential or angular velocity will be the same for these two disks attached by the belt with 1 of them being turned by a motor and, in turn, turning the other.

You are psychic! :smile:

Think of the linear speed of the belt, if there is no slipping. After all, that's the only thing which connects the two gears.
 
AussieDave said:
I know that in a rotating disc the angular velocity will be the same at each point on the disk but the tangetial velocity will change as you change your radius from the centre of the disk.

I have a feeling that either the tangential or angular velocity will be the same for these two disks attached by the belt with 1 of them being turned by a motor and, in turn, turning the other.

Hi David! :smile:

A straight answer:

Yes, it's the tangential velocity.

This is because the speed of the belt is the same all the way along the belt. So its speed on one wheel is the same as its speed on the other wheel.

Which is just the tangential velocity! :smile:

(btw, it's the same with gears, ie the wheels touching and with no belt - the tangential velocity is the same - except of course that the wheels rotate in opposite directions instead of the same direction.)
 
Thank you everyone for your response. My thought was tangential velocity for the very reason you just posted. I was just struggling to find a straight answer in several textbooks. My engineering one has lots of great, tricky questions with nice diagrams but it barely provides any actual theory behind them. The answers also aren't very helpful but I'm getting the instructor's manual.

I was then going to ask the question about the gears but you've solved that too so thank you very much!
 

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