Relative angle after Compton scattering?

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The discussion revolves around a Compton scattering problem involving a photon and an electron. The original poster seeks to calculate the kinetic energy of the electron after the interaction, given that the photon and electron move at a relative angle of 90 degrees. The problem involves understanding the relationship between the angles and the conservation of momentum and energy.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the angles involved in the scattering, specifically questioning how to derive the relation between the angles θ and φ. There are attempts to apply conservation laws, but some participants express confusion about the implications of their equations and how they relate to the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various equations and relationships derived from conservation principles. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of energy and momentum conservation, but there is no clear consensus on the next steps or the correctness of the derived expressions.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of their equations and the specific setup of the problem, including the angles involved in the scattering process. There is a hint provided in the original post regarding the relationship between the angles, but the participants are still working through the implications of this hint.

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Homework Statement


Photon with ##\lambda =10^{-12} m## hits an electron (Compton scattering). After the interaction the photon and electron move under relative angle of 90°. Calculate the kinetic energy of electron. Hint: First find the relation between ##\theta ## and ##\varphi##. (##\theta +\varphi = 90°##)

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I can't find the relation! How on Earth can I find it?

The only thing I get from components of momentum is: ##\frac{hc}{\lambda ^{'}}sin\theta =cp_esin\varphi ##

But this doesn't help me much... or does it? O.o

Please help.
 
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Use energy conservation together with momentum conservation. Alternatively, find a formula for the electron momentum and λ′ as function of the two angles.
 
Ok...

##cp_esin\varphi =E_{\gamma }^{'}sin\theta ## and therefore ##\frac{cp_esin\varphi }{sin\theta }=E_{\gamma }^{'}##

momentum conservation along x axis:

##E_{\gamma }=cp_ecos\varphi +E_{\gamma }^{'}cos\theta ## using the last expression above:

##cp_e=\frac{E_\gamma }{cos\varphi +sin\varphi ctg\theta }##

so If I now insert this to ##cp_esin\varphi =E_{\gamma }^{'}sin\theta ## than:

##E^{'}=\frac{E_\gamma }{sin(\varphi +\theta )}##

But I can't see how this helps me?
 
sin(φ+θ) = sin(90°) = ?

Hmm, that doesn't look right. Where does that come from?
 
##cp_e=\frac{E_\gamma }{cos\varphi +sin\varphi ctg\theta}## and ##cp_esin\varphi =E_{\gamma }^{'}sin\theta##

so

##\frac{E_\gamma }{cos\varphi +sin\varphi ctg\theta}sin\varphi =E_{\gamma }^{'}sin\theta##

##\frac{E_\gamma }{sin\theta cos\varphi +sin\theta sin\varphi ctg\theta}sin\varphi =E_{\gamma }^{'}##

##sin\theta cos\varphi +sin\theta sin\varphi ctg\theta=sin\theta cos\varphi+sin\varphi cos\theta =sin(\varphi + \theta )##

##\frac{E_\gamma }{sin(\theta +\varphi )}sin\varphi =E_{\gamma }^{'}##

I know it doesn't like right... :D That's why I am here asking.. :/
 

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