Compton scattering - energy of the scattered photon

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The discussion revolves around a Compton scattering problem involving a photon and an electron. The original poster seeks to determine the energy of the scattered photon after a collision, given that the photon energy equals the rest energy of the electron and the electron moves off at a specific angle.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and energy equations relevant to the problem. Some suggest using 4-momentum for analysis. The original poster expresses confusion about determining the angle of the scattered photon and outlines steps involving the Compton wavelength.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. The original poster has articulated their understanding and confusion, while others have provided insights into the equations needed. There is no explicit consensus yet, as participants are still questioning how to proceed with the calculations.

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There is a mention of specific angles and energy values, as well as the relationship between the wavelengths before and after scattering. The original poster notes that the provided answers have not been sufficient for their understanding.

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Hi.
I have the exact same problem that ZachWeiner had in here:
A photon whose energy equals the rest energy of the electron undergoes a Compton collision with an electron. If the electron moves off at an angle of 40 degrees with the original photon direction, what is the energy of the scattered photon?

Unfortunately the answers don't help me much. I would need more information how to get the energy of the scattered photon.

Thanks.
 
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Write down your conservation of momentum and energy equations.

If an object is scattered with some y momentum. To conserve overall y momentum the object that was at rest must have equal and opposite momentum in y.

This should be done using 4 momentum.
 
Makla said:
Hi.
I have the exact same problem that ZachWeiner had in here:
A photon whose energy equals the rest energy of the electron undergoes a Compton collision with an electron. If the electron moves off at an angle of 40 degrees with the original photon direction, what is the energy of the scattered photon?

Unfortunately the answers don't help me much. I would need more information how to get the energy of the scattered photon.

Thanks.
Step 1. get the angle (x) of the photon after scatter.
Step 2. increase in Compton wavelength is given by 1-cos(x).
Step 3. get energy from Compton wavelength.

Note: Your original photon energy has a Compton wavelength of 1 (corresponding to 511 kev). So the final energy of the photon will be 511/(2-cos(x)) kev.
 
how

How do I get x?
I know this:
y = 40°
hc/lam = 0,511 MeV

In x direction: h/lam = h/lam' cos(x) + p_e cos(y)
In y direction: h/lam' sin(x) = p_e sin(y)

We also know: lam' - lam = lam_c (1 - cos(x))
Where:
lam = wavelength before scattering
lam' = wavelength after scattering
x = angle of the scattered photon
y = angle of the electron

I don't know how to get x.
 

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