Relative Velocity Homework: Solve for Ball Rise Height

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a science student on a train throwing a ball at an angle while the professor observes its motion. The context is relative velocity, specifically how the ball's trajectory appears to an observer on the ground compared to the moving train.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the assignment of velocities in the context of relative motion and question how to approach the problem with multiple unknowns. There is also a consideration of the horizontal component of the ball's velocity as perceived by the professor.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the problem, suggesting that the horizontal velocity component can be assumed based on the professor's observation. One participant indicates they have made progress in solving the problem, although there is still some uncertainty about the method used to find the maximum height.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the need to clarify the roles of different velocities in the problem, as well as the challenge of having multiple unknowns in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A science student is riding on a flatcar of a train traveling along a straight horizontal tract at a constant speed of 10.0m/s. The student throws a ball along a path that she judges to make an initial angle of 60.0degrees with the horizontal and to be in line with the track. The student's professor, who is standing on the ground nearby, observes the ball to rise vertically. How high does the ball rise?


Homework Equations


velocity(ab) = velocity(ae)-velocity(be)
change in y=(v{o} sin{theta})t-.5gt^2
= v{o}t+.5at^2
change in x=v{o}t

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure what to assign for ab, ae and be in this problem.
Also, once I solve for the actual velocity, I'm still left with two unknowns, how far it has gone and how long it took to get there. What am I missing here?
 
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Since the professor just observes the ball to rise vertically one can assume that the horizontal component of the balls velocity is 10 m/s in the opposite direction to the trains motion.
 
Thank you for your reply Kurdt.

I was able to figure out the problem this morning after a good nights rest :)


I found the velocity in the vertical direction and from there it's pretty simple to find the max height using

h= v{y}^2(sin^2(theta)) / 2g

and in this case theta was 90, so it was just the velocity in the y-direction squared, over 2g.


At least, I think that's how it's done..?
 
Yeah that looks good.
 

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