Relative Velocity of Astronauts After a Throw and Catch

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The problem involves two astronauts in space, initially at rest relative to each other, where one astronaut throws a ball and the other catches it. The task is to determine the speed of one astronaut relative to the other after the throw and catch, utilizing principles of momentum.

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  • Participants discuss the application of momentum conservation equations and question the interpretation of relative velocity. There are attempts to clarify the calculations for the velocities of both astronauts after the throw and catch.

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Some participants have provided corrections to initial calculations and clarified the concept of relative velocity. There is ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply the equations and understand the relationship between the astronauts' velocities.

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Participants note discrepancies in the initial values used for calculations and question whether the choice of which astronaut's speed to use affects the outcome. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the correct approach to finding relative velocity.

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[SOLVED] Momentum problem

Two astronauts float in space, at rest relative to each other. The first astronaut, mass 63.4 kg, holds a ball of mass 7.28 kg, which she throws at speed 6.17 m/s. The second astronaut, mass 83.1 kg, then catches the ball. Find the speed one astronaut is moving relative to the other after one throw and one catch.

P = mv
M1V1 + M2V2 = M1Vf + M2Vf

I found the momentum of the first astronaut throwing the ball which is:

7.28(6.12) = 63.4 vf

7.28(6.12)/63.4 = vf
-.7027 m/s = vf

Also the momentum of the second astronaut catching the ball:

83.1(0) + 7.28(6.17)/ 83.1 + 7.28 = vf
.497 m/s = vf

but I am rather confused about what its asking for. It asking for the speed one astronaut is moving relative to the other. Does it matter which astronaut's speed I use or do I need to use a relative velocity equation?

If I need to use a relative velocity equation would it be something like:

V astro b relative to a = V astro a relative to b + V of astro A and B
 
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You probably don't want to write 6.12 when the problem statement says 6.17. I get v=-0.7085m/s for the first astronaut. For the second astronaut your numbers don't add up at all. But to answer your question the relative velocity of the two is the difference between the two velocities if you keep the sign straight.
 
Well, for your question, you can use (m_1+m_2)v_i = m_1v_1_f+m_2v_2_f, where I don't quite get the same answer as you for the first astronomer's velocity.

And then if you calculate the second astronomer's velocity, you get an answer which is consistent with what you got.

Then the relative velocity of astronaut B to astronaut A
=v_B-v_A, where v_A is a negative number, therefore
v_B_t_o_A=v_B+|v_A|
 
thanks it worked out.
 

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