Relativistic Centre of Momentum Frame

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Homework Statement


A particle of mass m ha speed 0.546c relative to inertial frame S. The particle collides with an identical particle at rest in the inertial frame S. Relative to S and in terms of c, what is the speed of S' in which the total momentum of these particles is 0.

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I can see that in the S' frame, Pa = - Pb so that means that Va = - Vb since both masses are equal. But I just can't get my head around why i need to use special relativity because everything is in reference to the S frame anyway.
 
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xoxomae said:
that means that Va = - Vb
That's correct, but it doesn't answer the question. They want you to tell them the value of Va. THe naïve non-relativistic answer is that it's half of 0.546c, ie 0.273c but that answer is wrong because it doesn't allow for the fact that, if you choose a frame that has velocity 0.273c relative to the first one, the velocities of the two particles will NOT be 0.273c and -0.273c respectively, because of the relativistic corrections.
 
Pa=-Pb and Va=-Vb are not in S.
 
S' frame is moving at a velocity v w.r.t S frame.
Let velocity of Particle 1 = U1 in S frame and particle 2 = U2 in S frame therefore Particle 1 = U1' and particle 2 = U2' in S' Frame
Since particle 2 is at rest in S frame, its velocity in S' frame is equal to the velocity of the S' frame relative to S i.e. v=u2'
So in a centre of momentum frame u2'= - u1' = v

Using Einstein velocity addition formulas and setting c to 1

u2' = ( u2 - v ) / (1-v/c) = v

When solved gives v = 0.297c

Does this seem right?
 

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