Relativity: Can a Spaceship Become a Black Hole?

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The discussion clarifies that a spaceship traveling at 99% the speed of light cannot become a black hole, despite misconceptions about increasing mass. The concept of "relativistic mass" is outdated; instead, "invariant mass" is the accepted terminology among professionals. For an observer within the spaceship, the conditions remain unchanged, illustrating the principles of relativity. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding reference frames in the context of black hole formation.

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Let's imagine say, a spaceship is going through space at 99% the speed of light. Relativity says (to my understanding) that as the spaceship increases in speed it's mass will increase and it shall also get slightly shorter. Let's assume that energy isn't a problem, should the spaceship continue accelerating and gets up to speeds extremely close to the speed of light, could it theoretically become massive enough and compact enough to have gravity take over and turn that spaceship into a black hole? Thank you!
 
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Hi Zack,

The short answer is no. Here is a more detailed explanation:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/BlackHoles/black_fast.html

Note also, the idea of a particle increasing in mass as it gets faster is called "relativistic mass". Although it still appears in the popular science literature and in some poor-quality textbooks, it is a concept that has largely been discarded by professional scientists. Generally, the term "mass" refers to what is known as the "invariant mass".

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/what-is-relativistic-mass-and-why-is-it-not-used-much.783220/
 
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Hi that's a common misunderstanding of relativity and black holes.

For a traveler inside the spaceship, the spaceship is just the same as it was at take-off (that's what relativity is about!).
Thus, the black hole theory applies to the mass as measured with such a co-moving reference system.
 
Okay. I think I'm beginning to comprehend why the answer would be no. Thank you all! People like you guys are why this site is so fantastic!
 
You are welcome, glad we could help.
 

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