Reparametrize the curve in terms of arc length

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The discussion focuses on reparametrizing the curve R(t) defined by x = e^t, y = √2t, and z = -e^-t in terms of arc length S measured from t = 0. The arc length S is calculated using the integral S = ∫ ||R'(t)|| dt, where ||R'(t)|| = e^t + e^-t. The participants explore methods to express t as a function of S, ultimately leading to the conclusion that t can be represented as t = sinh^(-1)(S/2) or t = ln(S ± √(1 + S^2)).

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Reparametrize the curve R(t) in terms of arc length measured from the point where t = 0

R(t) is defined by x = et, y = \sqrt{2}t, z = -e-t

Arc length S = ∫ ||R'(t)||dt

||R'(t)||= sqrt{\dot{x}2 + \dot{y}2 + \dot{z}2}The attempt at a solution

Getting R'(t) ==> x = et, y = \sqrt{2}, z = e-t

Then ||R'(t)|| = sqrt{e2t + 2 + e-2t} = et + e-t

S = ∫(et + e-t)dt from 0 to some t
So
S = et - e-t

This is the point where I get stuck. How can I transform this equation into form t = ... ?

I tried taking ln of the whole equation but it doesn't seem to work.

Help please!
 
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Recall that:

\frac{e^{t}-e^{-t}}{2} = sinh(t)

Where sinh(t) is the hyperbolic sine function. Can you take it from here?
 
melifaro said:
Reparametrize the curve R(t) in terms of arc length measured from the point where t = 0

R(t) is defined by x = et, y = \sqrt{2}t, z = -e-t

Arc length S = ∫ ||R'(t)||dt

||R'(t)||= sqrt{\dot{x}2 + \dot{y}2 + \dot{z}2}

The attempt at a solution

Getting R'(t) ==> x = et, y = \sqrt{2}, z = e-t

Then ||R'(t)|| = sqrt{e2t + 2 + e-2t} = et + e-t

S = ∫(et + e-t)dt from 0 to some t
So
S = et - e-t

This is the point where I get stuck. How can I transform this equation into form t = ... ?

I tried taking ln of the whole equation but it doesn't seem to work.

Help please!
Hello melifaro. Welcome to PF !

What's the definition of the hyperbolic sine, sinh(x) ?

Added in Edit:

Of course using the sinh function will leave S as a function of arcsinh(t).

Alternatively take the equation
S = et - e-t
and multiply by et to get an equation that's quadratic in et. Solve for et. (Keep only the + solution from the ± result. Why can you do that?) Take the natural log of the result.
 
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I'm not very familiar with hyperbolic functions but does that mean that

S = 2 sinh(t)
sinh-1(\frac{S}{2}) = t ?

So R(s) is defined by x = esinh-1(\frac{S}{2}), y = \sqrt{2}sinh-1(\frac{S}{2}), z = e-sinh-1(\frac{S}{2})

EDIT

SammyS said:
Alternatively take the equation
S = et - e-t
and multiply by et to get an equation that's quadratic in et. Solve for et. (Keep only the + solution from the ± result. Why can you do that?) Take the natural log of the result.

This is so simple and so smart. Thanks a lot!
 
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melifaro said:
I'm not very familiar with hyperbolic functions but does that mean that

S = 2 sinh(t)
sinh-1(\frac{S}{2}) = t ?

So R(s) is defined by x = esinh-1(\frac{S}{2}), y = \sqrt{2}sinh-1(\frac{S}{2}), z = -e-sinh-1(\frac{S}{2})

EDIT

This is so simple and so smart. Thanks a lot!
The x & z components come out very nicely using the result from the quadratic equation.

BTW: You left the negative off of the result for z.
 
You are close, but can still simplify it:

2sinh(t) = S
t = sin^{-1}(\frac{S}{2})
t= ln(\frac{1}{2}(S\pm\sqrt{4+s^{2}}))

Edit: fixed
 
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SammyS said:
[...]Keep only the + solution from the ± result. Why can you do that?[...]

Just to make sure, is it because t is always positive from the problem description?

Edit

DivisionByZro said:
You are close, but can still simplify it:

2sinh(t) = S
t = sin^{-1}(\frac{S}{2})
t= ln(S\pm\sqrt{1+s^{2}})

Yes, thanks. As I said I am not familiar with hyperbolic functions so SammyS' solution better for me
 
melifaro said:
Just to make sure, is it because t is always positive from the problem description?
It's because you were solving for et. That's always positive, as a function of a real variable.
 
SammyS said:
It's because you were solving for et. That's always positive, as a function of a real variable.

Thank you!
 

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