Replace Component in Old Oscilloscope: Solutions Wanted

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a suitable replacement for a component in an old oscilloscope, specifically a pair of NFET transistors in a TO-39 package. Participants explore potential alternatives and methods for sourcing or matching components, focusing on high-frequency applications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a replacement for a specific component reference (41R105) that is difficult to find, noting it consists of two NFET transistors.
  • Another participant suggests purchasing a small lot of single transistors and extracting a matched pair based on their threshold voltage (Vth).
  • A suggestion is made to consider dual JFETs available on Digikey, although uncertainty remains about their suitability for the oscilloscope application.
  • One participant mentions the 2N4416 as a previously considered JFET for high frequency, noting its availability in different packages that could facilitate thermal contact.
  • Another participant questions how the original component was identified as a double FET, referencing the µA733 as a potential alternative that also fits the TO-39 package.
  • A participant confirms familiarity with the 2N4416 and states they possess the schematics for the oscilloscope, but lack commercial references for the original component.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various approaches to sourcing a replacement component, but there is no consensus on a specific solution or component that would definitively meet the requirements.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific component models and their characteristics, but the discussion includes uncertainty regarding the exact specifications needed for the replacement and the implications of using alternative components.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in vintage electronics repair, specifically those working with oscilloscopes or high-frequency transistor applications.

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Hello. I have to replace a component at the input of an old oscilloscope. The reference is unfoundable ( 41R105 ? ) in fact it is 2 NFET transistors in the same package (TO-39). I guess Ft is >= 1 GHz. I'm just looking for a component of the same kind (of course not same reference) that iI can find with reasonable difficulties. Thanks by advance for ideas ...
 
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Why shouldn't you buy a small lot of single transistors and extract a matched pair through their Vth for instance?

Beware integrated circuits have been made in TO-39, including op amps and HF circuits.
 
Thanks for your replies. That's probably what I'll do.
 
Deeply buried memories...

Last time I considered using Jfet for HF, a good part was the 2N4416, and it's still available on eBay, both in TO72 AND TO92 which should ease a thermal contact between two parts.

I hope you speak sanskrit to read the datasheet, and have kept your tools of reindeer bones and flintstone.

At least a selection guide from National Semiconductor is there, where deepest layers aren't necessarily older:
http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/50026/FAIRCHILD/J300.html
the J300 exists on eBay as well, the J300 and J310 being as fast as the 2N4416 with other Idss that may match your part better.

How did you know the component with obscure marking is a double Fet? Back then, the µA733 had a TO39 case as well, and this video amplifier would make sense in an oscilloscope.
 
Hello. Thanks for reply. I know pretty well 2N4416 I used in many HF boards ... I know that this is a double Fet because I own the schematics but unfortunately without any component commercial reference
 

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