Residue Theorem Applied to Calculating ψ(k,t)

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The discussion revolves around the application of the residue theorem in calculating the function ψ(k,t) through an integral involving the functions S(k,ω) and D(k,ω). Participants explore the specifics of the residue theorem's application, particularly in relation to poles and derivatives within the context of complex analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the specific form of the residue theorem being used in the calculation of ψ(k,t).
  • Another participant provides a canonical definition of the residue theorem, emphasizing the relationship between the integral around a closed curve and the residues at poles.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in relating the author's usage of the residue theorem to the canonical form found in references, seeking clarification on the partial derivative of D with respect to ω.
  • One participant explains that a pole occurs where D(k,ω) = 0, providing a Taylor series expansion for D around the pole and discussing the form of the integrand near this pole.
  • Another participant reiterates the explanation of the residue at a simple pole, relating it to the form of the function being integrated.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the origin of a minus sign in the original expression for ψ(k,t), with speculation that it may relate to the direction of contour traversal.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and interpretation of the residue theorem's application, with no consensus reached on the specifics of the minus sign or the exact nature of the theorem's usage in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants note assumptions related to the behavior of the functions S and D near the poles, as well as the conditions under which the residue theorem applies. There is also mention of the need for clarity on the derivative of D with respect to ω.

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I have a doubt on this following procedure using the residue theorem:
Initially we have
ψ(k,t)=[itex]\frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{L_{\omega}}\frac{S(k,\omega)}{D(k,\omega)}e^{-i\omega t}d\omega[/itex]
Then the author said using the residue theorem, we have
ψ(k,t)=[itex]-iƩ_{j}\frac{S(k,\omega_j(k))}{\partial D/ \partial \omega (k,\omega_j(k))}e^{-i\omega_j(k) t}[/itex]
where [itex]S(k,\omega_j(k)), D(k,\omega_j(k))[/itex] are functions relating [itex]k[/itex] and [itex]\omega[/itex].
What kind of residue theorem is the author using?
Thank you very much
 
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The "residue theorem" the author is using, the only one I know, is
"The integral of f(z) around a closed curve is [itex]2\pi i[/itex] times the sum of the residues at the poles of f inside the curve."
 
HallsofIvy said:
The "residue theorem" the author is using, the only one I know, is
"The integral of f(z) around a closed curve is [itex]2\pi i[/itex] times the sum of the residues at the poles of f inside the curve."

Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

I know residue theorem. I just can't relate the usage the author has displayed to the canonical form, like I found in Wiki or what you have said.

To be more specific, could you tell me how did you get the partial derivative of D w.r.t. ω in the denominator?
 
A pole occurs where [itex]D(k,\omega) = 0[/itex], at which point [itex]\omega = \omega_j(k)[/itex]. Locally the Taylor series for D is (for fixed k):
[tex] D(k,\omega) = (\omega - \omega_j(k))\frac{\partial D}{\partial \omega}(k,\omega_j(k)) + \dots[/tex]
Thus close to [itex]\omega = \omega_j(k)[/itex] (assuming [itex]S(k,\omega_j(k)) \neq 0[/itex]) the integrand is approximately
[tex] \frac{S(k,\omega_j(k))}{(\omega - \omega_j(k))\frac{\partial D}{\partial \omega}(k,\omega_j(k))}e^{-i\omega_j(k)t}[/tex]
so the residue is
[tex] \frac{S(k,\omega_j(k))}{\frac{\partial D}{\partial \omega}(k,\omega_j(k))}e^{-i\omega_j(k)t}.[/tex]

I don't know where the minus sign in the original comes from; presumably the contour is being traversed clockwise instead of anticlockwise.
 
jollage said:
Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

I know residue theorem. I just can't relate the usage the author has displayed to the canonical form, like I found in Wiki or what you have said.

To be more specific, could you tell me how did you get the partial derivative of D w.r.t. ω in the denominator?
Suppose the function you are integrating has a simple pole at ##z_0##. If the function being integrated can be written in the form ##\frac{p(z)}{q(z)}##, with ##q(z_0)=0## and ##q'(z_0)\neq 0##, then its residue at the point ##z_0## is given by ##\frac{p(z_0)}{q'(z_0)}##.
 
pasmith said:
A pole occurs where [itex]D(k,\omega) = 0[/itex], at which point [itex]\omega = \omega_j(k)[/itex]. Locally the Taylor series for D is (for fixed k):
[tex] D(k,\omega) = (\omega - \omega_j(k))\frac{\partial D}{\partial \omega}(k,\omega_j(k)) + \dots[/tex]
Thus close to [itex]\omega = \omega_j(k)[/itex] (assuming [itex]S(k,\omega_j(k)) \neq 0[/itex]) the integrand is approximately
[tex] \frac{S(k,\omega_j(k))}{(\omega - \omega_j(k))\frac{\partial D}{\partial \omega}(k,\omega_j(k))}e^{-i\omega_j(k)t}[/tex]
so the residue is
[tex] \frac{S(k,\omega_j(k))}{\frac{\partial D}{\partial \omega}(k,\omega_j(k))}e^{-i\omega_j(k)t}.[/tex]

I don't know where the minus sign in the original comes from; presumably the contour is being traversed clockwise instead of anticlockwise.

Thanks a lot, what you said makes sense.
 

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