Non-linear Resistance and Ohm's Law

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of non-linear resistors in relation to Ohm's Law, particularly focusing on a specific model where the current is defined by the equation I = 0.5 V^2. Participants explore whether the resistance at a given current can be defined in the context of Ohm's Law and how to approach circuit problems involving both non-linear and linear resistors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if the resistance of a non-linear resistor can be defined at a specific current, suggesting it could be 1 ohm based on the given current and voltage.
  • Another participant asserts that while the resistance can be calculated as 1 ohm, the non-linear resistor does not obey Ohm's Law as the ratio V/R is not constant.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that in a small neighborhood around a specific voltage, the non-linear resistor can be modeled as an ideal resistor in series with a voltage source, implying local linear behavior.
  • A participant poses a hypothetical scenario involving a 9V battery and queries how to determine the necessary fixed resistance in series with the non-linear resistor to achieve a specific current, indicating confusion over the correct approach.
  • Another participant provides a mathematical equation to solve for the unknown resistance, indicating a method to incorporate the non-linear resistor's behavior into the circuit analysis.
  • There is a discussion about whether to consider the "current resistance" of the non-linear resistor in the calculations, with one participant expressing uncertainty about the correctness of their initial approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the resistance of a non-linear resistor can be defined in the context of Ohm's Law. There is no consensus on the best approach to solving circuit problems involving both non-linear and linear resistors, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on specific definitions and assumptions about non-linear resistance and Ohm's Law, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and varying interpretations of circuit behavior.

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hey there, my question is just regarding non-linear resistors, basically if you had a situation whereby the current through a non-linear resistor is given by

I = 0.5 V^2

and you know the current through it (and thereby it's voltage), so for arguments sake current = 2A and therefore voltage = 2V. at this point, would the "resistance" of the resistor still obey Ohms law? so would therefore be 1 ohm (at this current)? or would it simply be the case that it has no "resistance" at all? or it's "resistance" is the fact that I = 0.5 V^2...

thanks in advance, it's quite a simple problem but i just thought of it
 
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Its resistance would be 1\,\Omega, but it wouldn't follow Ohm's Law, which states that the ratio V/R is constant.
 
Chewy0087 said:
hey there, my question is just regarding non-linear resistors, basically if you had a situation whereby the current through a non-linear resistor is given by

I = 0.5 V^2

and you know the current through it (and thereby it's voltage), so for arguments sake current = 2A and therefore voltage = 2V. at this point, would the "resistance" of the resistor still obey Ohms law? so would therefore be 1 ohm (at this current)? or would it simply be the case that it has no "resistance" at all? or it's "resistance" is the fact that I = 0.5 V^2...

thanks in advance, it's quite a simple problem but i just thought of it
It would not follow Ohm's law, but in any sufficiently small neighborhood around some specific voltage you could model it as an ideal resistor that does follow Ohm's law in series with an ideal voltage source.
 
hmm I see, thanks a lot for clearing this up for me, but it begs a question then,

if the question was such that it asked (with my earlier model) something along the lines of, given a 9V battery, what fixed resistance resistor must be placed in series with it in order for the current in the circuit to be 2A would that mean that;

given the current resistance of the non linear resistor the resistance of the fixed one must satisfy (\frac{1}{1+R})* 9=2

or would you simply say that in order for that to occur the current would be 2A and 7V must pass through the linear resistor giving it a resistance of 14 ohms?

i think the answer is the former, but it makes it confusing :o
 
You would solve:
\sqrt{2 I} + R I = V
Where V is the battery voltage, I is the current, and R is the unknown resistance.
 
DaleSpam said:
You would solve:
\sqrt{2 I} + R I = V
Where V is the battery voltage, I is the current, and R is the unknown resistance.

hmm okay, so you totally discount the "current resistance" of the non-linear resistance? because clearly the first way i outlined doesn't yield the correct result

thanks for the help, much obliged
 
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