Resistive force exerted on a sphere (air resistance)

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The discussion revolves around understanding the resistive force equation for a sphere, specifically in calculating terminal speed. The equation presented is R(v) = 3.1 × 10^{-4}rv + 0.87r^2v^2, which participants attempt to clarify and correct. A key point is that at terminal velocity, the resistive force equals the weight of the object, leading to a quadratic equation. One participant mistakenly equates the first term of the resistive force to 1% of the weight, which is corrected by others who emphasize that it should represent at least 99% of the weight. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately interpreting the relationship between resistive force and terminal velocity.
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Homework Statement
The following expression gives the resistive force exerted on a
sphere of radius r moving at speed v through air. It is valid over a
very wide range of speeds.
Rc= 3.1× 10-4rv + 0.87r2v2
where R is in N, r in m, and v in m/s. Consider water drops falling under their own weight and reaching a terminal speed.
(a) For what range of values of small r is the terminal speed
determined within 1% by the first term alone in the expression for
R(v)?
(b) For what range of values of Iarger r is the terminal speed
determined within 1% by the second term alone?
(c) Calculate the terminal speed of a raindrop of radius 2 mm. If there were no air resistance, from what height would it fail from rest before reaching this speed?
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i don´t understand the question
 
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Well, let's start by typesetting that equation and using some guesswork to fix the typos:$$R(v) = 3.1 \times 10^{-4}rv + 0.87r^2v^2$$Now you need to bring something to the table. Show us some effort. How would we determine terminal speed given this formula for resistive force? (i.e. "Calculate the terminal speed of a raindrop of radius 2 mm").
 
jbriggs444 said:
Well, let's start by typesetting that equation and using some guesswork to fix the typos:$$R(v) = 3.1 \times 10^{-4}rv + 0.87r^2v^2$$Now you need to bring something to the table. Show us some effort. How would we determine terminal speed given this formula for resistive force? (i.e. "Calculate the terminal speed of a raindrop of radius 2 mm").
And with a few more corrections:
$$R(v) = 3.1 \times 10^{-4}rv ~\rm{Ns/m^2}+ 0.87\it r^2v^2 ~\rm{Ns^2/m^4}$$
 
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haruspex said:
And with a few more corrections:
$$R(v) = 3.1 \times 10^{-4}rv ~\rm{Ns/m^2}+ 0.87\it r^2v^2 ~\rm{Ns^2/m^4}$$
ok ,
jbriggs444 said:
Well, let's start by typesetting that equation and using some guesswork to fix the typos:$$R(v) = 3.1 \times 10^{-4}rv + 0.87r^2v^2$$Now you need to bring something to the table. Show us some effort. How would we determine terminal speed given this formula for resistive force? (i.e. "Calculate the terminal speed of a raindrop of radius 2 mm").
hello haruspex, this is a cuadratic ecuation
 
alejo ortega said:
ok ,

hello haruspex, this is a cuadratic ecuation
considering that if v is the terminal velocity, the resistive force is equal to weight
 
alejo ortega said:
considering that if v is the terminal velocity, the resistive force is equal to weight
I equaled the first term to 1% of mg
3.1× 10-4rv = mg/100
and solve to r :
r= (10^2) mg/3,1v

alejo ortega said:
ok ,

hello haruspex, this is a cuadratic ecuation
 
alejo ortega said:
I equaled the first term to 1% of mg
3.1× 10-4rv = mg/100
and solve to r :
r= (10^2) mg/3,1v
but i believe that this proceeding its wrong :(
 
alejo ortega said:
I equaled the first term to 1% of mg
No, that’s a misunderstanding of the given information.
It is telling you that the first term gives you at least 99% of the value, with the quadratic term only contributing 1%.
 
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