Resistive force exerted on a sphere (air resistance)

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The discussion revolves around the resistive force exerted on a sphere, specifically focusing on air resistance and its implications for determining terminal velocity. Participants are examining a formula for resistive force and its application to a problem involving a raindrop.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the resistive force equation and its components. There are discussions about how to determine terminal speed using the provided formula, with some questioning the relevance and accuracy of the equations presented. Others are exploring the relationship between resistive force and weight.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing corrections to the equations and exploring different interpretations of the resistive force's implications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between resistive force and weight, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the setup of the problem and the assumptions being made about the resistive force and its contributions. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their reasoning and calculations.

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Homework Statement
The following expression gives the resistive force exerted on a
sphere of radius r moving at speed v through air. It is valid over a
very wide range of speeds.
Rc= 3.1× 10-4rv + 0.87r2v2
where R is in N, r in m, and v in m/s. Consider water drops falling under their own weight and reaching a terminal speed.
(a) For what range of values of small r is the terminal speed
determined within 1% by the first term alone in the expression for
R(v)?
(b) For what range of values of Iarger r is the terminal speed
determined within 1% by the second term alone?
(c) Calculate the terminal speed of a raindrop of radius 2 mm. If there were no air resistance, from what height would it fail from rest before reaching this speed?
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i don´t understand the question
i don´t understand the question
 
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Well, let's start by typesetting that equation and using some guesswork to fix the typos:$$R(v) = 3.1 \times 10^{-4}rv + 0.87r^2v^2$$Now you need to bring something to the table. Show us some effort. How would we determine terminal speed given this formula for resistive force? (i.e. "Calculate the terminal speed of a raindrop of radius 2 mm").
 
jbriggs444 said:
Well, let's start by typesetting that equation and using some guesswork to fix the typos:$$R(v) = 3.1 \times 10^{-4}rv + 0.87r^2v^2$$Now you need to bring something to the table. Show us some effort. How would we determine terminal speed given this formula for resistive force? (i.e. "Calculate the terminal speed of a raindrop of radius 2 mm").
And with a few more corrections:
$$R(v) = 3.1 \times 10^{-4}rv ~\rm{Ns/m^2}+ 0.87\it r^2v^2 ~\rm{Ns^2/m^4}$$
 
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haruspex said:
And with a few more corrections:
$$R(v) = 3.1 \times 10^{-4}rv ~\rm{Ns/m^2}+ 0.87\it r^2v^2 ~\rm{Ns^2/m^4}$$
ok ,
jbriggs444 said:
Well, let's start by typesetting that equation and using some guesswork to fix the typos:$$R(v) = 3.1 \times 10^{-4}rv + 0.87r^2v^2$$Now you need to bring something to the table. Show us some effort. How would we determine terminal speed given this formula for resistive force? (i.e. "Calculate the terminal speed of a raindrop of radius 2 mm").
hello haruspex, this is a cuadratic ecuation
 
alejo ortega said:
ok ,

hello haruspex, this is a cuadratic ecuation
considering that if v is the terminal velocity, the resistive force is equal to weight
 
alejo ortega said:
considering that if v is the terminal velocity, the resistive force is equal to weight
I equaled the first term to 1% of mg
3.1× 10-4rv = mg/100
and solve to r :
r= (10^2) mg/3,1v

alejo ortega said:
ok ,

hello haruspex, this is a cuadratic ecuation
 
alejo ortega said:
I equaled the first term to 1% of mg
3.1× 10-4rv = mg/100
and solve to r :
r= (10^2) mg/3,1v
but i believe that this proceeding its wrong :(
 
alejo ortega said:
I equaled the first term to 1% of mg
No, that’s a misunderstanding of the given information.
It is telling you that the first term gives you at least 99% of the value, with the quadratic term only contributing 1%.
 

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