Result of bleach+tartaric acid >>> ?

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The discussion revolves around the chemical reaction between sodium hypochlorite (NaClO) and tartaric acid (C4H6O6). Participants explore the potential products and mechanisms of this reaction, focusing on theoretical aspects rather than practical applications or homework-related queries.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the results of the reaction, indicating they conducted it recently.
  • Another participant prompts others to consider possible outcomes and whether any evidence of a reaction was observed.
  • A hypothesis is proposed regarding the oxidation of hydroxyl groups to ketones, followed by decarboxylation.
  • A detailed explanation is provided suggesting a double replacement reaction, where hypochlorous acid is formed, leading to the production of sodium hydrogen tartrate.
  • Some participants agree that oxidation may occur, indicating a potential complexity in the reaction products.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying hypotheses about the reaction, with some agreeing on the possibility of oxidation while others focus on the double replacement mechanism. No consensus is reached regarding the final products or the complete reaction pathway.

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Participants do not clarify specific assumptions or conditions under which the reaction was conducted, and the discussion lacks definitive conclusions about the reaction's outcomes.

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Hello Everyone
Please can you tell me what is the result of this reaction??
NaClO+C4H6O6>>>
NOTE:This is not a homework,i did this simple reaction yesterday.
 
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Off the top of your head, what do think may happen? Did you observe any evidence for a reaction?
 
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Could imagine some oxidation of the OH groups to ketone followed by decarboxylation.
 
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This is a double replacement (metathesis) reaction with the driving force being a weak acid Hypochlorous Acid formed by hypochlorite ion (ClO-) extracting one of the Hydrogens from the Tartic Acid giving Sodium Hydrogen Tartrate. (Ka(HClO) = 3.5 x 10-8 @ 25oC)

NaClO(aq) + H2C4H4O6(aq) => NaHC4H4O6(aq) + HClO(aq)
 
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That's definitely a first step, but I am with DrDu - some oxidation can happen.
 
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Thank you so much for help.
I want to ask something but not now!
This days i am too busy.
 

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