Retired and looking for low cost Physics Undergrad

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The discussion centers around finding low-cost undergraduate physics programs in English for a retired individual seeking to study physics or cosmology. Participants explore various options across different countries, considering both tuition fees and living expenses.

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Main Points Raised

  • Brady expresses a desire for affordable physics programs, mentioning Latvia University’s chemistry program as an example of low tuition but noting the absence of a physics program.
  • Some participants suggest that Brady clarify preferred locations for study, such as the US, UK, Europe, or India.
  • One participant argues that if Brady considers 4,000 euro to be cheap, he should find options in the US, particularly in the Midwest, where state schools may offer affordable classes.
  • Another participant counters that while 4,500 USD may cover three classes in the US, it could fund an entire two semesters in Latvia, highlighting the higher cost of living in the US.
  • Siddhartha recommends Leipzig University in Germany, noting no tuition fees and low living costs, suggesting it as a suitable option for Brady.
  • Another participant mentions Norway as a potentially tuition-free option but raises concerns about living expenses and the availability of programs in English.
  • One participant inquires about Brady's maximum yearly tuition budget, suggesting that many low-cost universities exist in the US, particularly if he establishes residency in Wyoming.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best options. There are multiple competing views regarding the affordability and availability of programs in different regions, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about costs and living expenses in different countries, and there are unresolved questions about the specific requirements for Brady's situation.

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Hello,
I retired Last year and have been traveling for a year now. I have decided I would like to go back to school and study Physics or Cosmology. I am looking for a physics undergraduate program that is "low cost", in English and in an area with a cost of living that is affordable for someone on a fixed income. For example Latvia University has a Chemistry program in English where the tuition is 4000 euro a year (international student) and living expenses in the area are about 600 Euro a month. This is well with in my budget but they do not have a physics program in English, just the Chem. Google has not been to helpful to me in researching this topic. In advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Brady
 
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I think you're probably going to have to give us a rough idea of where you are willing to go. US? UK? Europe? India?
 
anywhere except India :)
 
If you consider 4,000 euro (~$4500 USD) to be cheap, then you should have no issue finding an undergrad institution in the US which can accommodate you. Since you also need to live in an area with a low cost of living, I'd check out the Midwest. In a lot of state schools here (Illinois, Michigan, etc.), you can take 3 or so classes and be under $4500.
 
4500 will pay for three classes in the US or an entire 2 semesters or 12 courses in Latvia. Cost of living in the Midwest is much higher. For example I am from Columbus Ohio, One can rent an Apartment for about $800 a month in the university area. (In Latvia you can rent a room for $200 Euro a month. Food prices in Eastern Europe are a quarter of the prices in US.
 
brady maxwell said:
Hello,
I retired Last year and have been traveling for a year now. I have decided I would like to go back to school and study Physics or Cosmology. I am looking for a physics undergraduate program that is "low cost", in English and in an area with a cost of living that is affordable for someone on a fixed income. For example Latvia University has a Chemistry program in English where the tuition is 4000 euro a year (international student) and living expenses in the area are about 600 Euro a month. This is well with in my budget but they do not have a physics program in English, just the Chem. Google has not been to helpful to me in researching this topic. In advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Brady
Heyy Brady, I think I know something that you are going to find perfect.
There is a Physics program at Leipzig University (Germany) which offers Physics undergrad as well as postgrad program in English. The name of the program is International Physics Studies Program (IPSP).
The best thing about the program is that there is absolutely no tuition fees at all. You just have to pay a small amount of semester fees which is around 200 EUR per semester. You can travel for free in the city with the semester card that you get after paying the semester fees.
Moreover, Leipzig is considered to be one of the cheapest city in the whole country. Therefore, you can expect to spend roughly 600-700 EUR per month for living.
Therefore, for three year of studies, it will cost you around EUR 26,400 at max.

I hope this helps. All the best for your future endeavours. Siddhartha
-A proud Indian
 
That is fantastic. Thank you Sid0123.
 
brady maxwell said:
That is fantastic. Thank you Sid0123.
Welcome :) All the best!
 
Always heard Norway was cheapest(like no tuition at all), but that's probably for EU people only and I donno if they naturally have a BSc in English.

There's probably other cheap places out there, but those must be way down the Human Development Index(former second or third world countries) while Norway ranks no.1 each year.

Of course living expenses are a different issue. Better not buy alcohol there.
 
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What's the max yearly tuition you're willing to pay? You never said. I know of a LOT of low cost universities in the US, even for out-of-state students. But, I need to know what your cutoff is. I can tell you now, though, that if you're looking for dirt cheap you're not going to find it in the U.S. unless...

You move to Wyoming and establish residency. The U of Wyoming will cost $4891 for full-time WY residents for the 2015-2016 school year. The whole year, so it's probably not going to skyrocket before you establish residency if you go this route. You can move to the Laramie area and take the freshman and sophomore general education, math, and physics courses at a community college for little money.

Then, as soon as you establish residency for tuition purposes (different from regular residency), transfer to UWYO. The community college courses will either automatically transfer to UWYO or there will be an articulation agreement in place for the B.S. in Astronomy major that will get the same result as long as you met all the requirements. The U of Wyoming is the least expensive public university in the country. When you transfer, you may also be awarded a transfer merit scholarship (if you have a high GPA), if they give them (a lot of schools do). Check the transfer admissions section of the website, there should be info or links. If you're a veteran I don't think you have to live there a year first to establish residency, IIRC.

Again, UWYO is as cheap as it gets for full-time study in the USA going full pay with no scholarships or grant aid. Low cost tuition today generally means under $10,000 a year. That's the reality we're living in. But, there are quite a few public universities that I can refer you to that are at or under $8K a year for full-time out-of-state students. There are a few private colleges, too. Let me know if you want the list.

~risingcodeninja

brady maxwell said:
Hello,
I retired Last year and have been traveling for a year now. I have decided I would like to go back to school and study Physics or Cosmology. I am looking for a physics undergraduate program that is "low cost", in English and in an area with a cost of living that is affordable for someone on a fixed income. For example Latvia University has a Chemistry program in English where the tuition is 4000 euro a year (international student) and living expenses in the area are about 600 Euro a month. This is well with in my budget but they do not have a physics program in English, just the Chem. Google has not been to helpful to me in researching this topic. In advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Brady
 

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