Reversing order of integration

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The discussion revolves around reversing the order of integration for the double integral \(\int_{0}^{1}\int_{y^2}^{2-y} f(x,y) \ dx\ dy\). Participants are exploring the setup and boundaries of the integration region, which involves the functions \(x = 2 - y\) and \(x = y^2\).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the intersection points of the curves and the implications for setting up the integrals. There are attempts to express the integral in different forms, with some participants expressing confusion about the boundaries and the correct order of integration.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to rewriting the integral. Some participants have provided alternative expressions for the integrals, while others have acknowledged mistakes in their previous attempts. The discussion reflects a mix of uncertainty and attempts to clarify the correct setup.

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Participants mention that they have not encountered similar problems in class before, which contributes to their confusion. There is also a recognition of the pressure experienced during tests, affecting their reasoning.

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Homework Statement



Reverse the order of integration:

[tex]\int_{0}^{1}\int_{y^2}^{2-y} f(x,y) \ dx\ dy[/tex] This was on a test I took today. I was having trouble with it and was wondering how I should have gone about it?
 
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Fusi said:

Homework Statement



Reverse the order of integration:

[tex]\int_{0}^{1}\int_{y^2}^{2-y} f(x,y) \ dx\ dy[/tex]


This was on a test I took today. I was having trouble with it and was wondering how I should have gone about it?

Sketch a graph of the region over which integration is taking place. In the integral above, the inner integral runs from x = y2 to x = 2 - y. The outer integral runs from y = 0 to y = 1. When you reverse the order of integration for this problem you will end up with two iterated integrals.
 
So x=2-y and x=[itex]y^{2}[/itex] so y=2-x y=[itex]\sqrt{x}[/itex]

intersect at: [itex]2-x=\sqrt{x}[/itex] [itex]x=1[/itex] [itex]y=1[/itex]

y at 0 is (0,2)

I got confused because at y=1,x=1 each side can be explained differently so my first attempt at a solutions was:

[tex]\int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{x}} f(x,y) \ dy\ dx + \int_{1}^{2}\int_{2-x}^{1} f(x,y) \ dy\ dx[/tex]

I used some random logic in my head to get that and we've never seen anything like that in class before so I crossed it out and just wrote:

[tex]\int_{0}^{2}\int_{2-x}^{\sqrt{x}} f(x,y) \ dy\ dx[/tex]
 
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Fusi said:
So x=2-y and x=[itex]y^{2}[/itex] so y=2-x y=[itex]\sqrt{x}[/itex]

intersect at: [itex]2-x=\sqrt{x}[/itex] [itex]x=1[/itex] [itex]y=1[/itex]

y at 0 is (0,2)

I got confused because at y=1,x=1 each side can be explained differently so my first attempt at a solutions was:

[tex]\int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{x}} f(x,y) \ dy\ dx + \int_{1}^{2}\int_{2-x}^{1} f(x,y) \ dy\ dx[/tex]
This isn't correct, but it's closer than what you have below. Here's what you should get:
[tex]\int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{x}} f(x,y) \ dy\ dx + \int_{1}^{2}\int_{0}^{2 - x} f(x,y) \ dy\ dx[/tex]
Fusi said:
I used some random logic in my head to get that and we've never seen anything like that in class before so I crossed it out and just wrote:

[tex]\int_{0}^{2}\int_{2-x}^{\sqrt{x}} f(x,y) \ dy\ dx[/tex]
 
Yea I made a mistake on my last post. I actually did write my second bound as [itex]{0}\leq{y}\leq{2-x}[/itex]

We've never seen a problem like that before so I got so nervous I just crossed the entire answer out. The answer I decided to write down in the last couple seconds was actually:

[tex]\int_{0}^{2}\int_{\sqrt{x}}^{2-x} f(x,y) \ dy\ dx[/tex]

I kind of just tried to push the two integrals from my past answer together so I wouldn't have two iterated integrals.
 
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You understand why a single integral won't work, right?
 
Yea, I have a bad habit of writing something that I know can't work when I get nervous.
 

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