Rigorous Precalculus and Calculus Textbooks + Intro to Linear Algebra

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for rigorous precalculus and calculus textbooks, as well as introductory linear algebra resources. Participants express a desire for materials that emphasize mathematical rigor, contrasting with their previous computational experiences in high school.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks textbooks that provide a rigorous treatment of precalculus and calculus, specifically mentioning algebra, trigonometry, geometry, and single-variable calculus.
  • Some participants recommend Spivak or Apostol for calculus, while others suggest Serge Lang's Basic Mathematics for precalculus.
  • For linear algebra, a participant mentions Paul Shields' Elementary Linear Algebra, noting it is not rigorous but still valuable as a starting point.
  • There is a discussion about the comparative rigor of Spivak versus Simmons and Stewart calculus textbooks, with some arguing Spivak is more theoretical and challenging.
  • Concerns are raised about the appropriateness of Spivak for those without sufficient mathematical maturity, suggesting alternatives like older editions of Stewart or Thomas calculus.
  • One participant reflects on the historical context of mathematics education and the challenges of finding rigorous introductory texts, noting that many textbooks may not meet high standards of rigor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the suitability of various textbooks, indicating that no consensus exists on which texts are the best for achieving a rigorous understanding of the material. There are competing views on the difficulty and appropriateness of specific books for different levels of mathematical maturity.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the limitations of introductory texts in providing rigorous treatments, suggesting that a compromise may be necessary between rigor and coverage of material. There are also references to historical changes in mathematics education and the evolution of textbook rigor over time.

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I am currently studying A level Further Pure Mathematics, and I will be joining university next year. I want to brush up on precalculus (algebra, trigonometry, geometry) and calculus (differential, integral [single variable]), except that this time I need a more rigorous treatment of those topics. Most of what I covered in high school was very computational, with barely any focus on mathematical rigor. I am also looking for a good introduction to linear algebra textbook.What textbooks would you recommend?
 
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Spivak or Apostol calculus? Serge Lang basic mathematics for pre cal.
 
For linear algebra. There is a book mathwonk recommends (Math professor at a university who frequents this forum). The book is called Elementary Linear Algebra by Paul Shields. It is not rigorous, but it is by no means a trial book. USE this book first then Serge Lang Linear Algebra?
 
MidgetDwarf said:
Spivak or Apostol calculus? Serge Lang basic mathematics for pre cal.

Is Spivak Calculus better than Simmons/Stewart Calculus?
 
Yes but it is more of the theory behind calculus book. In other words spivak is introductory analysis light. Spivak is a hard book but a good one. If you have the mathematical maturity go for it. Would advice strongly against spivak if you are not there yet. An older version of thomas with analytic geometry would be best. Are you still in highchool?
 
MidgetDwarf said:
Yes but it is more of the theory behind calculus book. In other words spivak is introductory analysis light. Spivak is a hard book but a good one. If you have the mathematical maturity go for it. Would advice strongly against spivak if you are not there yet. An older version of thomas with analytic geometry would be best. Are you still in highchool?

Yes, still in high school. I finished most of my subjects early though, so I know some basic differentiation and integration.
 
Then spivak would be too hard if you don't have anyone to help you with. I would advice f getting an older edition of stewart with an older edition of thomas calculus with analytic geometry. I know that the 3rd ed is great but a little terse. I I've seen the 7th edition with lighthouse cover. I thought it was easier to read but it reminded me to much of stewart. Both books should be les than 20 dollars.

Both books compliment each other well. Avoid watching youtube videos as soon as you get. Getting stuck is the best process of the learning experience.
 
MidgetDwarf said:
Then spivak would be too hard if you don't have anyone to help you with. I would advice f getting an older edition of stewart with an older edition of thomas calculus with analytic geometry. I know that the 3rd ed is great but a little terse. I I've seen the 7th edition with lighthouse cover. I thought it was easier to read but it reminded me to much of stewart. Both books should be les than 20 dollars.

Both books compliment each other well. Avoid watching youtube videos as soon as you get. Getting stuck is the best process of the learning experience.

What about Simmons calculus?
 
MohammedRady97 said:
except that this time I need a more rigorous treatment of those topics.

Having read some of your posts on the forum, I'd say you have an high standard of rigor - a very high standard relative to the general population taking introductory courses. Textbooks that introduce those topics are not written in a rigorous fashion, so it may be impractical to find an introductory text that meets your standards.

(In the decade after Sputnik threw a scare in the USA education system, there were efforts to produce textbooks that were in harmony with respectable mathematics - versus being in harmony with convenient ways to teach students to work typical problems. An example of such a text is the 3rd edition of Calculus With Analytic Geometry by Johnson and Kiokemeister. The 4th edition takes an even more sophisticated approach but also has a slew of misprints. The last time I looked at Calculus books was in the 1980's and they were much less rigorous than J&K 3rd edition.)Doing mathematics in a rigorous fashion can be laborious and slow, but mentally satisfying. You have to decide how to compromise the goal of "covering the material" with working in a way you enjoy. To cover material, you have to endure the fact that some aspects will not be presented rigorously. For example, the organization of mathematics education places the rigrorous approach to the properties of the real numbers in a graduate or advanced undergraduate course. Those who get to that course have been required to work with the real numbers in math courses for many years before they arrive.
 
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