Root Test and Integral Test Question

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of the series Σ (-1)^k (k/e^k) from k=4 to infinity, utilizing various convergence tests including the Ratio Test, Root Test, Integral Test, and Alternating Series Test.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss their attempts with the Alternating Series Test and Ratio Test, noting convergence. Questions arise regarding the application of the Root Test and Integral Test, with some expressing confusion about the necessity of imaginary numbers in the Integral Test.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on the Root Test, suggesting that it is solvable and that finding an upper bound may be sufficient. There is also mention of showing absolute convergence for the Integral Test, which appears to alleviate concerns about complex numbers. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify these concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants note that the problem may involve complexities not typically addressed in their coursework, such as the potential use of imaginary numbers, which raises questions about the instructor's expectations.

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Homework Statement


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From K=4 to infinity the Σ (-1)^k (k/e^k)

Converge or diverge?
Use:
a) Ratio Test
b) Root Test
c) Integral Test
d) Alternating series test

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For the alternating series test and ratio test I have the correct answer that it converges. These were fairly simple for me to proceed with.
However, I am stuck on the Root test and Integral test.
For the root test I DID get an answer, but it seems corrupt:

Lim as n approaches infinity of (|(-1)^k (k/e^k|))^(1/k)
With some simplification I narrowed it down to
The lim as n-->infinity of (|n^(1/n)|/e)

Which doesn't seem solvable ?

And for the Integral test, I am seeing the answer requires imaginary numbers, etc. which we do not use in this class. Is it possible that the instructor did not realize this? Does this problem demand the use of imaginary numbers, etc? If so, I imagine I would be able to pass on this part.

Thanks for any guidance.
 
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Root test: it is solvable. The numerator is a well-known limit problem with a standard answer, but here you do not need the exact limit - it is sufficient to find some upper bound, and that is easier to find.

RJLiberator said:
And for the Integral test, I am seeing the answer requires imaginary numbers, etc.
You can show absolute convergence instead of the (weaker) convergence. There, you don't get issues with complex numbers.
 
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mfb said:
Root test: it is solvable. The numerator is a well-known limit problem with a standard answer, but here you do not need the exact limit - it is sufficient to find some upper bound, and that is easier to find.

You can show absolute convergence instead of the (weaker) convergence. There, you don't get issues with complex numbers.

Ah, music to my ears. I see exactly what to do with the absolute convergence of the integral test. I took out the (-1)^k and then integrated to get a result o 5/e^4 which concludes absolute convergence.

Now, I will try to work on the root test.

Thank you for your guidance.
 
mfb said:
Root test: it is solvable. The numerator is a well-known limit problem with a standard answer, but here you do not need the exact limit - it is sufficient to find some upper bound, and that is easier to find.

You can show absolute convergence instead of the (weaker) convergence. There, you don't get issues with complex numbers.

For the Root Test:

I took the limit of the numerator and denominator. For the common limit of n^(1/n) the limit is 1. For e, the limit is the constant --> e.
Thus, answer is 1/e and the limit is less then 1 meaning absolute convergence.

Thank you for your guidance.
 

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