Rotating Detonation Engine, the future of aviation propulsion?

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Rotating Detonation Engines (RDEs) are not expected to replace low/high bypass turbofan engines for subsonic aviation propulsion, as turbofans are highly efficient and well-engineered for this purpose. RDEs are primarily being researched for hypersonic applications and as alternatives to conventional rocket engines, but they currently lack the necessary thrust and specific impulse to compete with turbofans. The complexity of RDEs and the significant performance improvements required make their widespread adoption in commercial aviation unlikely. While RDEs are under investigation in both military and academic settings, their future remains uncertain and dependent on successful testing. Overall, turbofans are likely to continue dominating aviation propulsion well into the 21st century.
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Is the use of RDEs for aviation propulsion happening anytime sooner or the use of low/high bypass turbofan engines will continue ?
Hello everyone, I am Abheer and I am a high school student. Few days back I saw an article about RDEs (Rotating Detonation Engines). The article said it is the future of aviation propulsion. I want to ask, is it really so that RDEs are future or the low/high bypass turbofan engines will continue to rule the skies till the end of 21st century ?
 
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Hi Abheer- turbofans will not be replaced by RDEs for subsonic propulsion. RDEs are being researched for hypersonics and alternatives to conventional deflagration rocket engines. The gains in specific impulse would have to be a factor of ten or more to make the RDE compete with a commercial turbofan. This is not feasible, and because RDEs are very complex, I would say that will never happen.

RDEs are being investigated at universities, but they are also being investigated in the military. Currently, the most powerful publicly-acknowledged RDE I am aware of is sitting at 22kN of thrust. This is still not quite cutting it for some necessities in hypersonics, such as packaging limitations, or simply thrust required to maintain a glide at high Mach numbers.

Basically, the "normal, lame" commercial turbofans you know on airplanes are actually extremely well-engineered engines with the highest specific impulses known to mankind for chemical propulsion. RDEs offer something to rocketry, but not to the plane you fly to LA.
 
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Benjies said:
Hi Abheer- turbofans will not be replaced by RDEs for subsonic propulsion. RDEs are being researched for hypersonics and alternatives to conventional deflagration rocket engines. The gains in specific impulse would have to be a factor of ten or more to make the RDE compete with a commercial turbofan. This is not feasible, and because RDEs are very complex, I would say that will never happen.

RDEs are being investigated at universities, but they are also being investigated in the military. Currently, the most powerful publicly-acknowledged RDE I am aware of is sitting at 22kN of thrust. This is still not quite cutting it for some necessities in hypersonics, such as packaging limitations, or simply thrust required to maintain a glide at high Mach numbers.

Basically, the "normal, lame" commercial turbofans you know on airplanes are actually extremely well-engineered engines with the highest specific impulses known to mankind for chemical propulsion. RDEs offer something to rocketry, but not to the plane you fly to LA.
What do you think about their use in fighter jet and UAVs
 
Abheer Parashar said:
TL;DR Summary: Is the use of RDEs for aviation propulsion happening anytime sooner or the use of low/high bypass turbofan engines will continue ?

I want to ask, is it really so that RDEs are future or the low/high bypass turbofan engines will continue to rule the skies till the end of 21st century ?
Whenever you read that something is being developed, or investigated, or researched, it means that the future is uncertain. It may be used in the future if tests are successful, or it may be dropped if tests fail or if major disadvantages are found. There are many more failures than successes.
 
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Well that's not really accurate. Diesel engines are still "being researched" and yet have been in practice use for over a century.
 
boneh3ad said:
Well that's not really accurate. Diesel engines are still "being researched" and yet have been in practice use for over a century.
We're drifting off topic here, but there is a distinction between "being researched" for economic viability and "being researched" for incremental improvements to something already known to be economically viable.
 
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