Rotation dynamics pulley concept confusion

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The problem involves a pulley system with two masses, m1 and m2, and a uniform circular disc pulley of mass M. The objective is to determine the linear acceleration of the masses while neglecting friction.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive equations of motion using free body diagrams and torque considerations but seeks clarification on the validity of their equations.
  • Some participants question the assumptions regarding tension in the rope and the direction of forces acting on the system.
  • Others provide alternative equations and suggest using torque to analyze the system.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the equations and discussing the assumptions involved in the problem. There is an exchange of equations and attempts to correct misunderstandings, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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There appears to be confusion regarding the tension in the rope and the application of torque, which may affect the interpretation of the problem. The original poster expresses a need for guidance on their equations.

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Homework Statement


A light string is passed over a pulley and two masses m1 and m2 are suspended from the two free ends. The pulley is a uniform circular disc of mass M. Find the linear acceleration of the two masses. Friction may be neglected.

Homework Equations


I through center of the disc = MR^2 /2
The answer is a= (m2-m1)g / (m1+m2+M/2)

The Attempt at a Solution


I drew 3 free body diagrams separately, and get T-m1g = m1a..(1)
m2g-T=m2a...(2)
1/2 MR^2 (a/R) = 2TR (2 tension acting both clockwise if I assume m2 is on the right hand side and it is heavier than m1) ...(3)
Plz point out what's wrong in each equation 1,2,3, thxxxx
 
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You are wrong in 2TR because the tension direction opposite and also the rope's tension isn't same in this equation. I will add true equations in few minutes
 
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\begin{equation}
m_2.g-T_2=m_2.a
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
T_1-m_1g=m_1.a
\end{equation}
If i use torque
\begin{equation}
T_2.R-T_1.R=M.R^2.\alpha\div{2}
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
\alpha.R=a
\end{equation}
If there is misunderstanding in your mind, you will ask me.
 
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Safakphysics said:
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\begin{equation}
m_2.g-T_2=m_2.a
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
T_1-m_1g=m_1.a
\end{equation}
If i use torque
\begin{equation}
T_2.R-T_1.R=M.R^2.\alpha\div{2}
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
\alpha.R=a
\end{equation}
If there is misunderstanding in your mind, you will ask me.

Thank you. I got it.
 
You are welcome
 

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