Rotational Inertia: Mass m, Radius R, h, v, g

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The problem involves a body with mass m and radius R rolling horizontally without slipping and then ascending a hill to a maximum height h, with a given relationship between h, v, and g. The discussion centers on determining the body's rotational inertia and identifying the type of body in question.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of energy principles relevant to the problem, including translational and rotational kinetic energy. Questions are raised about the components of energy involved and the relationships between translational and rotational velocities.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring various energy components and relationships. Some guidance has been provided regarding the rolling condition and the need to consider both translational and rotational kinetic energy. There is a progression towards simplifying equations and understanding the implications of the given height relationship.

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There is an emphasis on the requirement for the body to roll without slipping, which introduces specific relationships between translational and rotational motion. The problem also involves assumptions about energy conservation and the types of energy present in the system.

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Homework Statement


A body radius R and mass m is rolling horizonttally without slipping with speed v. Then is rolls up a hill to maximum hieght h. If [tex]h=\frac{3v^2}{4g}[/tex]
a) what is the body's rotational inertia?
b) What body might it be?


Homework Equations


[tex]h=\frac{3v^2}{4g}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


I have no clue!
 
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Show some effort, you just copied the problem under 2. Granted this is one of the tougher problems posted recently, but add some info re eqns for energy conservation in this instance.
 
ok so
energy of conservation in this problem is [tex]K_{i} =U_{f}\longrightarrow\frac{1}{2}mv^2=mgh[/tex]
and rotational inertia for a body is
[tex]I=\int r^2 dm[/tex]
 
Call the rotational inertia I. Make use of the fact that it rolls without slipping. (Hint: The KE will be part translational and part rotational.)
 
Some questions:
  • What are the components of energy with which you need to be concerned? You have equations for translational kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy. Are you missing anything?
  • What is the total energy of the body at the bottom of the hill (before it starts rolling up the hill)?
  • What is the total energy of the body when it reaches the maximum height?
 
so [tex]\frac{1}{2}I_{center of mass}w^2+\frac{1}{2}Mv_{center of mass}^2=Mgh[/tex] This is the potenial energy once it reaches its maximum hieght.
The intial KE is [tex]\frac{1}{2}I_{center of mass}w^2+\frac{1}{2}Mv_{center of mass}^2[/tex] since it starts from rolling
Components of energy are translational+rotational=rolling
and [tex]I=\int r^2 dm[/tex]
 
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The body is rolling without slipping. That means there is a relationship between the rotational velocity [itex]\omega[/itex] and the translational velocity [itex]v[/itex]. You were also given a relationship between the height [itex]h[/itex] and the velocity. Use these relationships to simplify the equations.
 
so you saying: [tex]v_{translational}=\omega R\longrightarrow\omega=\frac{v_{center of mass}}{R}[/tex]
right?
I plugg that into my equation and the [tex]h=\frac{3v^2}{4g}[/tex]
 
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So what do you get?
 
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After simplifying every thing I got
[tex]I=\frac{M}{2}R^2[/tex]
which happens to be the Rotational Inertia of a cylinder! AHH!
 
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Well done.
 

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