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The discussion revolves around calculating the kinetic energy of a horizontal merry-go-round after a specified time under the influence of a constant tangential force. The merry-go-round is treated as a solid cylinder, and participants are exploring the implications of the applied force and the resulting motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the moment of inertia and the effects of the applied force on the system's motion. There is a focus on the relationship between torque, angular acceleration, and kinetic energy. Questions are raised about the interpretation of the problem, particularly regarding the application of force and the assumptions made about the system's dynamics.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections to each other's reasoning. Some have identified errors in the original poster's approach and suggested alternative methods involving torque and angular acceleration. There is no explicit consensus yet, as different interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants note the importance of considering the time duration of the applied force and the implications of constant acceleration in the context of the problem. The original poster's calculations are questioned, particularly regarding the treatment of forces and the resulting motion of the merry-go-round.

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Homework Statement



A horizontal 800.0 N merry-go-round with a radius
of 1.5 m is started from rest by a constant horizontal
force of 50.0 N applied tangentially to the merry-go-
round. Find the kinetic energy of the merry-go-round
after 3.0 s. Assume it is a solid cylinder.

Homework Equations



KE = (1/2)(Iw^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



Answer in the back is 280 J

My answer, however, turns out to be 40ish.

Here's how I did it:

I found moment of inertia I of combined objects (I treated the forces as objects here):

I = I_(mgr) + I_(object_at_edge)
I = (.5MR^2) + (MR^2)
I = (.5*80*1.5^2) + (5*1.5^2)
I = 101.25 kg.m^2

Then, I chose the 50 N constant force as the force that maintains circular motion, so

50 = (mv^2)/r

50 = ((I/r^2)*v^2)/r

50 = ((101.25/1.5^2)*v^2)/1.5

v^2 = 1.667
v = 1.29

Now, KE = (.5)(Iw^2)
= (.5)(101.25*(0.86)^2)
= 43.5 J

Haha, awfully messy.
 
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note you have not used the fact that it is asking you what happen after 3.0s. it said a constant force is applied tangentially so can't equate 50 = mv^2/r either... my guess from the wording of the question is that the merry go round is under constant acceleration.. you should work out the angular acceleration and torque... [tex]\tau= I\alpha[/tex] where, I, here is moment of inertial of object.
 
Why do you state "combined objects?"
The 50 N is applied tangentially.
 
Thanks for the help. I have made a fundamental error here and I should have known better. I have reached the solution by using the net torque identity, which equals to I*angular acceleration.

t=Ia

Then since t=Fd

Fd = Ia
(50)(1.5) = (.5*80*1.5^2)(a)

a = 0.83 rad/s^2

Since a = (w_f - w_i)/t

0.83 = w_f/3

w_f = 2.49

Now we can easily conclude KE_f:

KE_f = (.5)(90)(2.49)^2
= 280 J
 

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