Rotational Mechanics: Find Height of Stick in N Turns

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The problem involves a stick of length l thrown into the air, where it completes N turns before being caught at the initial release point. The goal is to determine the height to which the center of mass of the stick rises, expressed as h=πNL/4.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the angular displacement and its implications, questioning the validity of the original poster's assumptions regarding revolutions and angular velocity. There is also a focus on dimensional analysis of the proposed height equation.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the correctness of assumptions and exploring the relationships between angular displacement, angular velocity, and height. Some guidance has been offered regarding dimensional correctness, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to solving the problem.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the definitions of angular quantities and their dimensions, as well as the interpretation of the number of turns in relation to angular velocity.

ARNAV SHARMA
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Homework Statement


A student throws a stick of length l up in the air .At the moment the stick leaves his hand ,the speed of the stick's end is zero.The stick completes N turns just as it is caught by the student at the initial release point . Show that the height to which the centre of mass of the stick rose is h=πNL/4[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


I assumed the stick will make n/2 revolutions when it reaches the max height and this gave me the angular displacement πnlg through this i found out angular velocity and substituted it in conservation of energy formula . where am i going wrong?[/B]
 
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ARNAV SHARMA said:
angular displacement πnlg
That is not an angle.
ARNAV SHARMA said:
through this i found out angular velocity
How?
 
ARNAV SHARMA said:

Homework Statement


A student throws a stick of length l up in the air .At the moment the stick leaves his hand ,the speed of the stick's end is zero.The stick completes N turns just as it is caught by the student at the initial release point . Show that the height to which the centre of mass of the stick rose is h=πNL/4[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


I assumed the stick will make n/2 revolutions when it reaches the max height and this gave me the angular displacement πnlg through this i found out angular velocity and substituted it in conservation of energy formula . where am i going wrong?[/B]
is h=pi*n*l/4 dimensionally correct?
 
Abhishek kumar said:
is h=pi*n*l/4 dimensionally correct?
Yes, both sides are distances.
 
Abhishek kumar said:
is h=pi*n*l/4 dimensionally correct?

Please explain why do you think it is not dimensionally correct ?

I would suggest you to not post randomly .You should only post if it is helpful or if it adds value to a thread .
 
conscience said:
Please explain why do you think it is not dimensionally correct ?

I would suggest you to not post randomly .You should only post if it is helpful or if it adds value to a thread .
I thought that pi*n give angular velocity that's why i asked that.but here n is no turn i confuse this frequency
 
How can i approach then ?
 
ARNAV SHARMA said:
How can i approach then ?
Suppose the stick is rotating at rate ω.
What is the initial speed of its mass centre?
How long will it take to reach its highest point?
 

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