Rotations in differential geometry

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of rotations in differential geometry, particularly focusing on how rotations are represented mathematically and their implications for calculating angles between geodesics. Participants explore the relationship between tangent vectors and local angles, as well as the application of these concepts in both Euclidean space and on curved surfaces like spheres.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the form of rotation matrices in differential geometry, particularly in the context of orthogonal basis vectors.
  • There is a suggestion that the angle between two differentiable curves at a point can be defined as the angle between their tangent vectors at that point.
  • One participant proposes that if the curves are geodesics, the local angle could be expressed in terms of latitude and longitude, while another questions the relevance of latitude and longitude outside of spherical contexts.
  • A participant assumes the curves are arcs of great circles on a sphere, linking the discussion to geodesics on a spherical surface.
  • Another participant defines the angle between two vectors in an inner product space and relates it to tangent vectors at a point on a manifold.
  • One participant expresses a desire to correlate mathematical definitions with cartographic concepts, specifically regarding azimuths and tangent vectors of geodesics.
  • There is a discussion about the definition of rotations in n-dimensional Euclidean space, including conditions for a mapping to be considered a rotation.
  • Some participants explore the idea of using derivatives to describe rotations and their connection to curvature, while others seek clarification on the implications of conformal mappings.
  • Questions arise regarding the definitions and relationships between various transformation functions and their relevance to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of concepts like latitude and longitude in the context of rotations and geodesics. There is no consensus on the definitions of transformations or the nature of rotations in non-Euclidean spaces, indicating that multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations in their understanding of transformations and mappings, particularly in relation to conformal maps and their definitions in different contexts. There are unresolved questions about the relationships between various mathematical constructs discussed.

  • #31
meteo student said:
Very nice. Learned something new. Pushforward and pullback.

I will calculate the Jacobian using the transformation functions and attempt to reproduce the published expressions.
Good luck, sorry I could not give you something more direct/clear.
 

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