Rules for curl test applicability

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The discussion revolves around the applicability of the curl test in vector calculus, specifically in relation to determining whether a differential form is exact. Participants explore the conditions under which the curl test can be applied, including the nature of the curves involved and the implications of the test results.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the curl test applies to a simple closed curve.
  • Another participant clarifies the conditions for a differential form to be exact, citing the relationship between partial derivatives and the curl of the vector field.
  • A participant specifies they are referring to the condition df/dy - dg/dx.
  • There is a further inquiry into whether the implications of the condition relate to the integral around a closed path or the independence of the path for integrals between two points.
  • Participants note that the first implication requires a closed path, while the second does not.

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Participants express differing views on the specific implications of the curl test and its applicability, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise conditions and interpretations of the test.

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Limitations include the lack of clarity on which specific aspects of the curl test are being referenced and how they relate to the conditions of closed paths versus path independence.

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trying to remember rules for curl test applicability.

is it just simple closed curve?

is F=-ysin(x)i+cos(x)j able to use the curl test?
 
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It would help if you would cite the "curl test" you are talking about. I think you are referring to the fact that a two variable differential, f(x,y)dx+ g(x,y)dy, is an "exact differential", that is, that there exist F(x,y) such that dF= f(x,y)dx+ g(x,y)dy, if and only if
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}= \frac{\partial g}{\partial x}[/tex]
which the same as saying
[tex]curl \vec{f}= \nabla\times\vec{f}= \vec{0}[/tex] where
[tex]\vec{f}= f(x,y)\vec{i}+ g(x,y)\vec{j}[/tex].
It follows from that that the integral of f(x,y)dx+ g(x,y)dy around any closed path is 0 and that the integral from one point to another in the xy-plane is independent of the path. Which of those are you referring to?
 
i was referring to the df/dy-dg/dx.
 
Actually, that doesn't answer my question- were you referring to the fact that if df/dy- dg/dx= 0 implies that the integral around a closed path is 0 or to the fact that it implies the integral, from one point to another, is independent of the path.

The first obviously requires a closed path- it says so! The second does not.
 

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