Sakurai, Chapter 1 Problems 23 & 24

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The discussion focuses on solving Sakurai's Chapter 1 Problems 23 and 24, which involve finding simultaneous eigenkets for commuting operators A and B, and proving the matrix representation of a rotation operator using the expression (1 / √2)(1 + iσ_x). For Problem 23, the simultaneous eigenkets are identified as |1, 0, 0>, |0, 1/√2, i/√2>, and |0, -1/√2, -i/√2>, with corresponding eigenvalues of A and B. In Problem 24, it is established that the operator represents a clockwise rotation of -π/2 about the x-axis.

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Problem 23:
If a certain set of orthonormal kets, |1> |2> |3>, are used as the base kets, the operators A and B are represented by

<br /> A = \left( \begin{array}{ccc} a &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\ <br /> 0 &amp; -a &amp; 0 \\ <br /> 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -a \end{array} \right)<br /> <br /> B = \left( \begin{array}{ccc} b &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\ <br /> 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -ib \\ <br /> 0 &amp; ib &amp; 0 \end{array} \right).<br /> <br />

A and B commute. Find a new set of orthonormal kets which are simultaneous eigenkets of both A and B. Specify the eigenvalues of A and B for each of the three eigenkets. Does your specification of eigenvalues completely characterize each eigenket?


Problem 24:
Prove that (1 / \sqrt{2})(1 + i\sigma_x) acting on a two-component spinor can be regarded as the matrix representation of the rotation operator about the x-axis by angle -\pi / 2. (The minus sign signifies that the rotation is clockwise.)
 
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Hi quantumkiko! :wink:

Show us what you've tried, and where you're stuck, and then we'll know how to help. :smile:
 
Hi Tim!

In problem 23, I don't know how to represent the simultaneous eigenkets |a, b&gt;. I just know how to solve the eigenvalues for each operator using the characteristic equation (some are degenerate). I also know that for two commuting observables, their simultaneous eigenkets form a complete set. Therefore, their simultaneous eigenkets are automatically orthogonal. That's all.

For problem 24, I think we have to show that the result of letting the operator (1 / \\sqrt{2})(1 + i\\sigma_x) act on a spinor is equivalent to a rotation operator acting on the same spinor. For a spinor of unit length, I used the matrix representation \left( \begin{array}{c} \cos \theta &amp; \sin\theta \end{array} \right) (I think this is where I was wrong.) Since the angle of rotation is -\pi / 2, the rotation matrix will be given by,

\left( \begin{array}{cc} cos(-\pi / 2) &amp; sin(-\pi / 2) \\ -sin(-\pi / 2) &amp; cos(-\pi / 2) \end{array} \right) = \left( \begin{array}{cc} 0 &amp; -1 \\ 1 &amp; 0 \end{array} \right).

If I let this operator act on the spinor, the resulting s
 
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Hint: in problem 23, just look at the bottom right-hand 2x2 square of A …

it's a multiple of the unit matrix!

so its eigenkets are … ? :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hint: in problem 23, just look at the bottom right-hand 2x2 square of A …

it's a multiple of the unit matrix!

so its eigenkets are … ? :smile:

It's eigenkets are \left( \begin{array}{c} 1 \\ 1 \end{array}\right) and \left( \begin{array}{c} -1 \\ -1 \end{array}\right)?
 
quantumkiko said:
It's eigenkets are \left( \begin{array}{c} 1 \\ 1 \end{array}\right) and \left( \begin{array}{c} -1 \\ -1 \end{array}\right)?

waah! :cry:

think … if C is the 2x2 unit matrix,

for what vectors or kets V is CV = V? :biggrin:
 
Oh, for all kets V! So how does that fit into finding the simultaneous eigenstates of A and B?
 
quantumkiko said:
Oh, for all kets V! So how does that fit into finding the simultaneous eigenstates of A and B?

Well, there's one obvious simultaneous eigenstate …

and once you've found the other two eigenstates of B, they're bound to be eigenstates of A also. :smile:

(i'm logging out now for a few hours :wink:)
 
I got it! The obvious one is \left( \begin{array}{c} 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \end{array} \right) while the others are \left( \begin{array}{c} 0 &amp; 1/\sqrt{2} &amp; i/\sqrt{2} \end{array} \right) and \left( \begin{array}{c} 0 &amp; -1/\sqrt{2} &amp; -i/\sqrt{2} \end{array} \right). Thank you very much!

Now how about Problem # 24?
 
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quantumkiko said:
…while the others are \left( \begin{array}{c} 0 &amp; 1/\sqrt{2} &amp; i/\sqrt{2} \end{array} \right) and \left( \begin{array}{c} 0 &amp; -1/\sqrt{2} &amp; -i/\sqrt{2} \end{array} \right).

erm … they're the same! :redface:
Now how about Problem # 24?

Le'ssee …
quantumkiko said:
Problem 24:
Prove that (1 / \sqrt{2})(1 + i\sigma_x) acting on a two-component spinor can be regarded as the matrix representation of the rotation operator about the x-axis by angle -\pi / 2. (The minus sign signifies that the rotation is clockwise.)

Well … to prove it's a π/2 rotation …

the obvious thing to do is to square it! :biggrin:
 
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Oh yeah, I should really get different eigenkets, not just multiples of one of the other. So the other two should be <br /> \left( \begin{array}{c} 0 &amp; 1/\sqrt{2} &amp; i/\sqrt{2} \end{array} \right) <br /> and <br /> \left( \begin{array}{c} 0 &amp; i/\sqrt{2} &amp; 1/\sqrt{2} \end{array} \right) <br />
I was thinking that they won't be orthonormal, but I forgot that one of the i's changes sign when doing the inner product.

I got Problem # 24 also. Thank you!
 

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