Undergrad Scalar quantities and complex numbers

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Scalars are defined as quantities represented by numbers, which can be positive or negative, and may include measuring units. Complex numbers, such as 3 + 7j, are also considered scalars, despite being represented in a two-dimensional number plane. Scalars are fundamentally dimensionless and do not inherently include units, which are specific measures of dimensions like length or weight. The discussion highlights that scalars can encompass various types of numbers, including real and complex numbers, depending on their context and application. Understanding scalars requires recognizing their role in mathematical frameworks rather than associating them strictly with physical measurements.
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I was taught a scalar is a quantity that consists of a number (positive or negative) and it might include a measuring unit, e.g. 6, 5 kg, -900 J, etc. I was wondering if complex numbers like 3 + 7j (where j is the square root of minus 1) can be considered scalar quantities too, or is it that only real numbers (that might include measuring units) can be considered scalars?
 
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Complex numbers are considered scalars. Although complex numbers can be thought of as a magnitude and direction in the 2D number plane, the number plane is a mathematical space and not a physical space like horizontal and vertical.
 
topito2 said:
I was taught a scalar is a quantity that consists of a number (positive or negative) and it might include a measuring unit, e.g. 6, 5 kg, -900 J, etc. I was wondering if complex numbers like 3 + 7j (where j is the square root of minus 1) can be considered scalar quantities too, or is it that only real numbers (that might include measuring units) can be considered scalars?
Scalars are numbers, rationals, reals, complex or even quaternions. Units are not part of them! A unit is a special measure of a dimension like length or weight. Scalars are dimensionless.
 
Thank you so much for the speedy reply, guys! BTW, could you please provide any reference (book or website) I could check to dig a little bit more on the subject?
 
topito2 said:
Thank you so much for the speedy reply, guys! BTW, could you please provide any reference (book or website) I could check to dig a little bit more on the subject?
Can you tell which direction?
Scalars as numbers? Which? Scalars as part of vector spaces or algebras? Scalar fields? Scalars as opposing vectors?
In the end they are simply numbers. Which, depends on what for. Or which role they play in certain contexts.
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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