Scalar Shifts and Polynomial Equivalence in Linear Operators

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The discussion revolves around the properties of minimal and characteristic polynomials of linear operators, specifically examining the effects of scalar shifts on these polynomials. The original poster attempts to demonstrate the equivalence of the minimal and characteristic polynomials under a scalar shift.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore definitions and properties of characteristic polynomials, questioning the reliance on determinants and the implications of eigenvalues and eigenspaces. Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions being used and their applicability to the problem at hand.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering various definitions and interpretations of characteristic polynomials and eigenvalues. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being explored, particularly regarding the relationship between eigenvalues and the effects of scalar shifts.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of a clear definition of determinants in the context of the problem, which may affect their ability to engage with the characteristic polynomial's properties. Additionally, there is an acknowledgment of the potential assumptions regarding the underlying field and the dimensions of eigenspaces.

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"Let m_T(x), f_T(x) denote the minimal and characteristic polynomials of T, respectively. Let k be a scalar. Show that

m_{T-k}(x) = m_T(x+k) and f_{T-k}(x)=f_T(x+k)."

I was able to show that the minimal polynomials were the same. But my argument was based on the minimality of the degree of m_T and it fails for characteristic polynomials.
 
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fT-kI(x) = det((T-kI) - xI) = det(T - (x+k)I) = fT(x+k), n'est ce pas?
 
I don't know. You tell me. We haven't defined what a determinant is.
 
I'm curious how you define characteristic polynomial, then. AFAIK, most texts do it in terms of the determinant.

(Incidentally, it turns out that the determinant is the constant term of the characteristic polynomial)
 
Suppose d_i is the dimension of the eigenspace corresponding to \lambda_i, then the characteristic polynomial, denoted f_T(x), is:

f_T(x)=(x-\lambda_1)^{d_1}...(x-\lambda_r)^{d_r}.

Of course the two definitions must be equal, however since we haven't 'seen' the other one, I'm supposing that I can't use this equivalence to solve the problem.
 
That cannot be the definition of characteristic polynomial. The characteristic poly of an nxn matrix is a deg n poly. There is nothing that asserts that the number of eigenvalues of a matrix counted with multiplicity is n.

Eg. the 2x2 matrix with row 1 (1,1) and row 2 (0,1) has characteristic polynomial (x-1)^2, and minimal poly (x-1)^2 too, yet the dimension of the 1-eigenspace is 1.
 
Well I gave what I have here. I think it would work out if we replaced d with d_i = \dim null (T-\lambda_i I)^{dim V}.
 
What are the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of T + kI?
 
If e is an eigenvalue of T, then e-k is an eigenvalue of T+kI.
 
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That doesn't look right. What if T = 0 and k = 1?
 
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I think you're assuming the underlying field to be closed, and I think you intend the d_i to be the dimensions of the generalized eigenspaces corresponding to \lambda _i, which is equal to what you've said in post 7.
 
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Treadstone 71 said:
If e is an eigenvalue of T, then e-k is an eigenvalue of T+kI.

If v is an eigenvector of T with eigenvalue \lambda then
(T+ kI)v= Tv+ kIv= \lambda v+ kv=(\lambda+ k)v.
You have a sign wrong.
 

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