Science or Engineering: A British Student in Egypt

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The discussion revolves around the educational and career choices of a British student living in Egypt, particularly focusing on the potential for studying engineering versus physics. The student expresses a desire to engage with scientific concepts at the atomic level and seeks advice on engineering fields that align with this interest.

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Main Points Raised

  • The student expresses concern about the job prospects in science in Egypt and questions the value of a physics degree.
  • Some participants suggest that engineering is more applied and may offer better job opportunities compared to a physics degree.
  • There is a query about engineering fields that are closely related to atomic-level studies, with mentions of nuclear engineering, semiconductor physics, and chemical engineering.
  • Participants propose that material science and nanoelectronics are relevant fields that involve atomic-level research and applications.
  • One participant highlights the importance of molecular dynamics and density functional theory in engineering disciplines.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that engineering fields can provide opportunities to work at the atomic level, but there is no consensus on which specific engineering discipline is the best fit. Multiple viewpoints regarding the relevance of various engineering fields remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various engineering fields without resolving the complexities of each discipline's relationship to atomic-level studies. The discussion reflects a range of opinions on job prospects and educational paths in Egypt.

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hello guys , i currently live in egypt , and i believe i will also be getting my college education in egypt * i am also a british citizen *
the thing is , science here isn't really .. well promising
i loved science since i was a child , always loved physics and atoms seemed to amuse me the most
but if i do scientific degree in physics , i will be EXACTLY like someone who majored in alien linguistics , there is 0.00000001% i will find aliens , and when i do , there is another 0.0000001 % i will be the one to work with them , but that's not really the problem , i have always thought if i work hard enough i can be that 0.000001% , but my main problem is that i want to invent things , i like inventions and making theories
is there any type of engineering where i can study atoms or particles ? maybe electronic engineering ? i heard i can do a phd in quantum mechanics if i study electric engineering
any suggestions ?
* note i am in my last year of my highscool *
 
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I'm not sure how things are in Egypt, but in the US it's much easier to get a job with a bachelor's in Engineering. Engineering really is applied physics -- there is a lot of overlap between the two disciplines.
 
so what kind of engineering would be close to the atomic level , aside from nuclear engineering
 
Semiconductor physics is also very much at the atomic level and there are very large chip fab houses looking for people who know this stuff well.

There are also solar energy research firms building better and better solar cells. Fabricating those is not a trivial thing either.

Think about it. You may want to consider such engineering applications from research, but there are many other options...
 
B4ssHunter said:
so what kind of engineering would be close to the atomic level , aside from nuclear engineering

Chemical Engineering deals with chemical reactions that take place in the electron cloud. I'd say probably material science because of nano technologies and of course there is nuclear engineering
 
B4ssHunter said:
so what kind of engineering would be close to the atomic level , aside from nuclear engineering

caldweab said:
Chemical Engineering deals with chemical reactions that take place in the electron cloud. I'd say probably material science because of nano technologies and of course there is nuclear engineering
Yes, material science and engineering, and even condensed matter physics is involved at the atomic level.

These days, there is a lot of research in molecular dynamics (MD) and density field/functional theory (DFT) with application in numerous engineering disciplines.

http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~ntg/talks/furnstahl_oslo_2008.pdf
 
Along with chemical, nuclear, material science, and stuff people have said I also think nano electronics is a cool engineering field. It's trying to build electronic systems at the smallest scale possible like molecule by molecule. It could really improve a bunch of computers and just seem really slick. I don't know almost anything about engineering but it sounds cool.
 

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