Searching for Joule Thomson and Thermal Expansion Coefficients of Methane

[boka33]

I've been scouring the web in search of a Joule Thomson coefficient value for methane, but so far no luck.

I have the volume, temperature, and specific heat as well... so I could also use the coefficient of thermal expansion for methane.. but I can't find that anywhere either!

Does anyone know of a good online reference?

Thanka a lot.

 

[Mårten]

Maybe this question fits better in the chemistry section?
https://www.physicsforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=83

I tried google on joule thomson coefficient methane, and found some, but I suppose you already done that yourself.

 

[boka33]

For future reference, I did figure out that you can calculate the Joule-Thomson coefficient using Van der Waals constants.

Another option uses Beattie-Bridgeman constants.

So I was able to figure it out from those known values.

 

[Sedunov]

Dear Boka!
You can find the Joule-Thomson coefficient values depending on T and P for many gases and fluids, including methane, in the NIST Database:
http://webbook.nist.gov/chemistry/fluid/

 

[boka33]

Thanks for the reply, but I can't see how to find the Joule-Thomson coefficient.

 

[Sedunov]

1. You open the page: Thermophysical Properties of Fluid Systems.
2. On this page you select Methane instead of Water, select needed for you units of measurement, and select the form of database, for example, Isothermal. Then you press to continue.
3.On the page Isothermal Properties for Methane you select temperature, for example, 300; select minimal, maximal pressure and increment, for example: 0 2 0.01
Do not forget to clean the box N3 with Java
4. Press for data
5. On the next page you will see a table with many properties, including JTC
6. To change the form and ranges of data you return back.

I wish you good luck

 

[boka33]

Thank you!

Nice to know about this tool, very useful,

I used:

http://www.chemistry.mcmaster.ca/~ayers/chem2PA3/labs/2PA36.pdf"

Equation (14)

My results are slightly different, but the process in question is not isothermal, isobaric, or isochoric, the constant is enthalpy since it is effectively a throttling process.

I'm not sure how to apply this to the tool you posted, but it is definitely very cool. Thanks.

 

[Sedunov]

The Equation (14 ) follows from the van der Waals equation, that is good for overall picture, but is not precise in details. The Joule-Thomson coefficient is very sensitive to parameters of the intermolecular forces. Therefore, it is better to use direct experimental data, generalized in databases, like the NIST Database.

 

[gooogallybear]

I've found in my book the J-T coefficient of Methane to be 4.38 K/MPa