Second derivatives using delta notation

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The second derivative of f(x) can be expressed as (f(x+h)-2f(x)+f(x-h))/h^2, which is derived from the finite difference method. The discussion clarifies that while the first derivative is approximated using (f(x+h)-f(x-h))/2h, the second derivative involves a more complex calculation. A correction is made regarding the change in the first derivative, confirming it results in (f(x+2h)-2f(x)+f(x-2h))/4h^2. Substituting g = 2h leads to the standard second derivative formula. The conversation concludes with a clearer understanding of these derivative approximations.
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Can some one explain why the second derivative of f(x) is (f(x+h)-2f(x)+f(x-h))/h^2? If you take the intervals to be x = 0 to x = 1 and you divide up the segment into little “hs” so that each x=h, 2h, 3h, nh, and so on?

I see that first derivatives can be approximated using (f(x+h)-f(x-h))/2h, but if you were to try to measure the change in (f(x+h)-f(x-h))/2h, wouldn't you get (f(x+2h)-f(x)-f(x)-f(x-2h))/2h^2?

Thanks.
 
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bodensee9 said:
I see that first derivatives can be approximated using (f(x+h)-f(x-h))/2h, but if you were to try to measure the change in (f(x+h)-f(x-h))/2h, wouldn't you get (f(x+2h)-f(x)-f(x)-f(x-2h))/2h^2?

No, you would get (f(x+2h)-f(x)-f(x)-f(x-2h))/4h^2

And if you substitute g = 2h you get the standard formula.

Another way to derive it is to use f''(x) is approximately (f'(x+h/2)-f'(x-h/2))/h and f'(x+h/2) is approximately (f(x+h)-f(x))/h
 
Oh I see it now. Thanks!
 
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