Second-Order Nonhomogeneous DE

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The discussion revolves around a second-order nonhomogeneous differential equation given by x^2 (d^2y/dx^2) + 3x (dy/dx) - 3y = x, along with boundary conditions y(x=1) = 0 and y(x=2) = 1. Participants explore various methods for solving the equation, noting its characteristics and the challenges posed by the boundary conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to identify appropriate solution methods, expressing uncertainty about the applicability of separation of variables, reduction of order, and Laplace transforms. They consider dividing by x but encounter complications. Other participants suggest methods such as undetermined coefficients, variation of parameters, and substitution, while questioning the classification of the equation as a Cauchy-Euler ODE.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various approaches and clarifying the nature of the equation. There is no explicit consensus on the best method, but several potential strategies have been proposed for further exploration.

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The original poster mentions a lack of access to computational tools and expresses concern about their current understanding of differential equations, indicating that they may be overlooking simpler solutions due to being out of practice.

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The Equation:

x^2 (d^2y/dx^2) + 3x (dy/dx) - 3y = x

The boundary conditions:

y(x=1) = 0
y(x=2) = 1

It's been awhile since I took diffeq, but my research has led me to believe that this is not a Cauchy-Euler Equation since it is not equal to 0, it cannot be separated for separation of variables, it cannot be solved using reduction of order because I was not given one solution, and I cannot solve using Laplace transforms because I was not given initial values, just boundary conditions.

I considered dividing by x^2 or x, but that leaves me either with a constant (still not 0) or a term that has both x and y in it, which I wouldn't know how to solve either.

I just re-imaged my laptop so I do not currently have MATLAB, but if I did I would not be quite sure how to go about it. WolphramAlpha didn't read the equation correctly. I have flipped through a friend's differential equation book and that yielded nothing helpful.

It seems likely that this has a simple solution because this homework was intended as a review of diffeq, so I'm sure a large part of the problem is that I'm rusty and have overlooked something. Help?
 
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This is an inhomogeneous Cauchy-Euler ODE !

As always with linear ODEs you can find the homogeneous solution to the ODE and add the particular solution to get the full solution.

Technically you can not use the Undetermined Coefficients method, it can only be used with constant coefficient ODEs.

But you can still guess the particular solution (guess Ax).

The rigorous way to solve it is to use substitution: x = exp(z)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauchy–Euler_equation
 

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