Second-Order separable Differential equations

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The discussion revolves around a second-order differential equation, specifically the equation d²y/dt² = dx/dt², with initial conditions provided for x. Participants express confusion regarding the notation and potential typos in the problem statement.

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  • Assumption checking, Problem interpretation, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants question the validity of the notation used in the equation, suggesting it may contain typos. There is a discussion about whether the equation should be d²y/dx² = dx/dt instead. Others propose that integrating both sides might be a potential approach if the equation is clarified.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the clarity of the problem statement, and the need for additional equations to solve for the unknown functions has been noted.

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Participants mention the challenge of having a single equation for two unknown functions, indicating that more information or clarification from the instructor may be necessary.

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Homework Statement



Solve d2y/dt2 = dx/dt2, if x = 0 and dx/dt = 1 when t = 0

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



d2y = dx

I'm not exactly sure what to do here the fact that dt2 is under the denominator for both fractions is confusing memaybe its a typo? should it be d2y/dx2 = dx/dt?
 
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Woolyabyss said:

Homework Statement



Solve d2y/dt2 = dx/dt2, if x = 0 and dx/dt = 1 when t = 0

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



d2y = dx

I'm not exactly sure what to do here the fact that dt2 is under the denominator for both fractions is confusing memaybe its a typo? should it be d2y/dx2 = dx/dt?
That has to be a typo. dx/dt2 makes zero sense.

On a side note, try to make you posts clearer by at least indicating that some things are exponents. The simplest way is to use the caret or circumflex character (^), which is pretty much universally used for this purpose. For example, 3x2 and e^(rt).

A little nicer is to use the advanced menu (click Go Advanced below the input area. For exponents, click the X2 button. You can do subscripts with the X2 button.

For fancier stuff, you can use LaTeX to write things like ##10x^2## and even fancier stuff. Here's a link to a summary of how to do that: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=617567 - item 2 on the list.
 
Mark44 said:
That has to be a typo. dx/dt2 makes zero sense.

On a side note, try to make you posts clearer by at least indicating that some things are exponents. The simplest way is to use the caret or circumflex character (^), which is pretty much universally used for this purpose. For example, 3x2 and e^(rt).

A little nicer is to use the advanced menu (click Go Advanced below the input area. For exponents, click the X2 button. You can do subscripts with the X2 button.

For fancier stuff, you can use LaTeX to write things like ##10x^2## and even fancier stuff. Here's a link to a summary of how to do that: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=617567 - item 2 on the list.

Alright thanks, If i were to assume they meant d^2y/dt^2 = dx/dt

would I be correct in saying I could integrate both sides and it would be dy/dt = x + c?
 
It might be better to figure out what the exact problem should be. Can you contact your instructor to get this clarified?
 
Mark44 said:
It might be better to figure out what the exact problem should be. Can you contact your instructor to get this clarified?

No I am afraid not I'll just leave ut for now. Thans anyway
 
The difficulty is that you have a single equation for two unknown functions, x and y. That is not sufficient. You need another equation.
 

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