Second partial derivative of v=e^(x*e^y)

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The discussion revolves around finding the second partial derivatives of the function v=e^(x*e^y), with an emphasis on calculating Vx and Vy first before proceeding to Vxx, Vyy, and Vxy.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the first partial derivatives Vx and Vy, with some expressing confusion about the differentiation process. There are attempts to clarify the expressions for Vx and Vy, and subsequent discussions on the second derivatives Vxx, Vyy, and Vxy.

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Participants have made progress in calculating the first partial derivatives and are beginning to explore the second derivatives. There is some back-and-forth regarding the correctness of the expressions, and while guidance has been offered, there is no explicit consensus on the final forms of the derivatives yet.

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Some participants question the assumptions made during differentiation, particularly regarding the treatment of constants and the application of exponent rules. There are also side discussions unrelated to the main problem, indicating a mix of focus within the thread.

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Homework Statement


Find the second partial derivative of v=e^(x*e^y)


Homework Equations



I know that I need to find Vx and Vy first and then the second partial derivative would be Vxx, Vyy, Vxy.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm really confused on how to find Vx or Vy
Vx= the derivative with regards to x, if y is a constant
so would it be Vx=e^(x*e^y) * (e^y)?
Any help would be great
 
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sdoyle1 said:
Find the second partial derivative of v=e^(x*e^y)

I know that I need to find Vx and Vy first and then the second partial derivative would be Vxx, Vyy, Vxy.

You're forgetting one.

sdoyle1 said:
Vx=e^(x*e^y) * (e^y)

That's correct. What's Vy?
 
Would Vy= e^(x*e^y) * (xe^y)
 
sdoyle1 said:
Would Vy= e^(x*e^y) * (xe^y)

Correct. Now you need to take the second partial derivatives.
 
Vxx would be the second derivative with respect to x but keeping y as a constant. This is where I get confused. Would it be:

Vxx=e^(xye^y)(ye^y)
= e^(xy^2e^y)
 
Wait, you would add the exponents, not multiply them.
So Vx= e^((xe^y)+y)
Vxx= e^(xe^y+y) * (e^y)
 
sdoyle1 said:
Vxx= e^(xe^y+y) * (e^y)

Correct
 
Ok then Vyy= xe^((xe^y)+y) * (x(e^y) +1)

Then Vxy= e^((xe^y)+y) * ((xe^y)+1) and Vyx is the same as Vxy

As an aside, how would I integrate t(t-1)^1/2 ?
 
sdoyle1 said:
Ok then Vyy= xe^((xe^y)+y) * (x(e^y) +1)

Then Vxy= e^((xe^y)+y) * ((xe^y)+1) and Vyx is the same as Vxy

Correct.

sdoyle1 said:
As an aside, how would I integrate t(t-1)^1/2 ?

Try integration by parts.
 
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sdoyle1 said:
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As an aside, how would I integrate t(t-1)^1/2 ?

Use the substitution: u = t-1 .
 
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Good call. Both methods should work, but this is much simpler to do.
 

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