Seeking general undergrad advice

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The discussion revolves around advice for undergraduate physics students, particularly those interested in astrophysics or cosmology. Participants share insights on studying mathematics, approaching instructors, and getting involved in their academic programs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to improve their study techniques for basic mathematics, noting that they often find the material trivial and forget crucial parts during exams.
  • Another suggests doing practice problems with a focus on quality rather than quantity, emphasizing the importance of specific questions when approaching instructors.
  • A different participant encourages attending office hours, stating that asking questions is a sign of a good work ethic and that students should not fear judgment from instructors.
  • Some participants mention the importance of getting involved in research early, suggesting that students should not wait until upper-level courses to engage with faculty and research opportunities.
  • One participant shares their experience of not finding calculus boring and suggests that there is no special technique for studying mathematics, implying that personal interest plays a significant role.
  • Concerns about being perceived as having a poor work ethic when asking questions are raised, with some arguing that this concern is unfounded and that students should utilize office hours effectively.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of engaging with instructors and getting involved in research early. However, there are differing opinions on study techniques and personal experiences with mathematics, indicating a lack of consensus on the best approaches.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the effectiveness of their study habits and the potential perceptions of instructors regarding their work ethic. There are also varying personal experiences with the perceived difficulty or engagement level of mathematics courses.

Who May Find This Useful

Undergraduate students in physics or related fields, particularly those interested in improving their study habits, seeking advice on instructor interactions, or looking for ways to engage more deeply in their academic programs.

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Background: Undergraduate majoring in physics to work in research, hopefully in astrophysics or cosmology. 1.5-2 years behind where I should be academically and (if all goes well) about to start courses relevant to major. My questions are these:

1) How should I study basic mathematics? (Calculus, etc.)

I have the interest and the aptitude, but I am under-performing and would like to change. Something that happens frequently is that I find the material trivial and studying consequently boring, and then forget crucial parts of what I studied on exams. What are some successful techniques you learned / wish you had known during undergrad?

2) How should I approach my instructors with questions?

I've never attended office hours out of paranoia that the instructor will find my questions revealing of bad work ethic/ poor comprehension, and judge my work in that light. Do instructors do this and if so how can I avoid it?

3) How to get more involved in my program?

Most general of all of my questions, what can I do, once I'm 300 and 400 level courses, to position myself for opportunities within the department? I have befriended others in it met through STEM clubs, attended talks given by faculty, etc. but I would like to know if there's any critical advice I can make use of.

Thanks so much!
 
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obstinatus said:
I've never attended office hours out of paranoia that the instructor will find my questions revealing of bad work ethic/ poor comprehension, and judge my work in that light. Do instructors do this and if so how can I avoid it?

Have a good work ethic.
 
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obstinatus said:
Background: Undergraduate majoring in physics to work in research, hopefully in astrophysics or cosmology. 1.5-2 years behind where I should be academically and (if all goes well) about to start courses relevant to major. My questions are these:

1) How should I study basic mathematics? (Calculus, etc.)

I have the interest and the aptitude, but I am under-performing and would like to change. Something that happens frequently is that I find the material trivial and studying consequently boring, and then forget crucial parts of what I studied on exams. What are some successful techniques you learned / wish you had known during undergrad?

Do practice problems until you're blue in the face. Don't focus on quantity, though... focus on quality.
obstinatus said:
2) How should I approach my instructors with questions?

I've never attended office hours out of paranoia that the instructor will find my questions revealing of bad work ethic/ poor comprehension, and judge my work in that light. Do instructors do this and if so how can I avoid it?

The only way a question would reveal a bad work ethic is if the question were "Can I have an extension? I forgot the assignment was due." And trust me, as a TA, I get this a lot. On the contrary, questions about material show that you have a good work ethic, and care about learning the material as opposed to just passing the class. Don't just go in with "I don't get this" though, have specific questions. If you are having issues with a particular problem, go in with your work so the professor can point out where you went wrong instead of having to walk through it with you.
obstinatus said:
3) How to get more involved in my program?

Most general of all of my questions, what can I do, once I'm 300 and 400 level courses, to position myself for opportunities within the department? I have befriended others in it met through STEM clubs, attended talks given by faculty, etc. but I would like to know if there's any critical advice I can make use of.

Thanks so much!

The best thing you can do is not wait until 300 and 400 level courses. Join a research group in your first semester. Join STEM clubs and attend seminars, as you said. But seriously, do research. I never understand why people think they can't get involved until they are an upperclassman.
 
obstinatus said:
1) How should I study basic mathematics? (Calculus, etc.)

I have the interest and the aptitude, but I am under-performing and would like to change. Something that happens frequently is that I find the material trivial and studying consequently boring, and then forget crucial parts of what I studied on exams. What are some successful techniques you learned / wish you had known during undergrad?

My technique for this is to just study anyway. But I'm a double major in physics and math, and I never found anything in my calculus courses to be boring. There's no special technique for it in my experience.

2) How should I approach my instructors with questions?

I've never attended office hours out of paranoia that the instructor will find my questions revealing of bad work ethic/ poor comprehension, and judge my work in that light. Do instructors do this and if so how can I avoid it?

This shouldn't even be a concern. The only stupid question is the one that remains unasked. You are a student, and the instructor is there to instruct you. You paid for those office hours. If you don't go to them, then that part of your tuition is just being wasted.

And as Vanadium50 pointed out, the way to avoid looking like you have a bad work ethic is to actually not have a bad work ethic. Given the limited information we have here, it seems like your work ethic could use a bit of work. There will be things in physics research that you'll find boring too. Like plotting endless streams of data and then replotting the data differently, and then taking the difference between those plots...and plotting it again...then taking the data and plotting it as a normal distribution, and then taking that data and fitting it to a Gaussian and...etc. Most people don't 'enjoy' these tedious tasks as such, but they come with the territory. It's part of the bigger picture and it's absolutely crucial.

3) How to get more involved in my program?

Most general of all of my questions, what can I do, once I'm 300 and 400 level courses, to position myself for opportunities within the department? I have befriended others in it met through STEM clubs, attended talks given by faculty, etc. but I would like to know if there's any critical advice I can make use of.

Thanks so much!

One of the best ways to get involved in research and things like that is to get to know professors. If they recognize your face or your name, your chances of getting involved in their research increase quite a bit. One way to make sure that they recognize you is by going to office hours.
 

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