Seemed to hit a brick wall in Engineering

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The discussion centers around the challenges faced by a junior mechanical engineering student who feels overwhelmed by courses in Dynamics and Thermodynamics. Participants share their experiences with similar struggles in engineering classes, particularly regarding the transition from earlier coursework to more advanced topics. The conversation explores the perceived difficulty of these subjects and the implications for future studies and career choices.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster expresses frustration with Dynamics and Thermodynamics, questioning whether these courses are designed to weed out students and if future classes will be more applied and easier.
  • One participant challenges the expectation that classes will become easier as students progress through the engineering curriculum.
  • Another participant shares their experience of struggling with engineering thermodynamics, emphasizing that the difficulty lies in the "engineering mindset" rather than the mathematical content.
  • A different participant mentions relying on tutoring to cope with the challenges of Dynamics and Thermodynamics and considers switching to economics while recognizing the value of an engineering degree in the job market.
  • One participant reflects on their own experience of hitting a wall during their junior year, noting the impact of working while studying and how it affected their academic performance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that hitting a wall in junior-level engineering courses is a common experience. However, there are differing views on whether the difficulty of these courses is primarily due to the content or the mindset required for engineering problem-solving. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of GPA on employability and the potential for switching majors.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific challenges related to balancing work and study, as well as the transition from earlier coursework to more complex subjects. There is also a lack of consensus on the relationship between GPA and job prospects in engineering versus other fields.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for current engineering students facing similar challenges, those considering a switch in majors, or individuals interested in the experiences of peers navigating difficult coursework in STEM fields.

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Hello,
I am a Junior Level Mechanical Engineer. It feels like I have hit a brick wall in my Engineering classes. I have a 2.75 cumulative gpa (major is 2.6).
During my first two years I didnt have many problems in my classes. I finnished Calc 1,2,3 + DiffEqus (with a grade of B or better) and Physics 1,2,3 (Physics was one of my weak spots, never took an introductory class only AP Physics B in high school before going to college). I have taken Mechanics of solids and materials without too much trouble. Now I am doing Dynamics and ThermyDynamics and it seems like I have hit a brick wall. I don't seem to understand any of the classes. I also don't find them very interesting at all.

I fairly enjoyed my math classes but didnt like my physics courses.

Is/has anyone else gone through this or felt like this? I guess Engineering is not what i though it was? Are Dynamics and Thermodynamics weed out courses? Do the classes become more easier and applied after them?

Is Mechanical Engineering more Physics dependent or Math dependent?
 
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Do the classes become more easier and applied after them?

Seriously? You expect classes to get easier as you move through an engineering curriculum?
 
i had the same problem, i switched from ChemE to Chem early on, and for one of the same classes (engineering thermo). unlike you though i trudged through that class and wasted another year.

i just did not understand engineering thermodynamics. i got a C. it wasn't the math. the math in thermo isn't challenging, its the setting up of the problems in the "engineering way". in fact i think for engineering, the math is only the first barrier, and the easiest to get over. the hardest is the "engineering mindset".

chemical kinetics and reactor design was even worse because it built on engineering thermodynamics and was more of the same type of thinking. i can't describe it, but i remember not being able to even move my pencil, yet the answer sheet was so simple. just horrible. it sucks being surrounded by people who "get it" and you're the only one that doesn't. i got a B but resolved to quit ChemE because of that class. it was like being forced to chew glass every day.

but keep in mind that if you switch to any non-economics major you will be making less money. you have to think to yourself, how important is money, and how good are you at math?
 
I haven't quit. I'm taking dynamics and thermo right now. I'm being tutored over the weekends and I'm relying heavily on the tutor.
I want to do well. If I was to switch I would switch to economics. But I know the benefits of a engineering degree are irreplacable in todays economy.

is it alight if I have a low gpa? Do emplyers hold it against engineers? (even non engineering companies)
 
I think many people hit that wall as a junior. I did in Physics. The first year was a breeze as I had learned the mechanics of differential calculus over the summer and skipped into integral calculus. The next year I learned vector analysis over the summer and courses were still pretty easy. My junior year I started into formal classical mechanics wall, formal qm (from a prof not interested in teaching) wall and on top of that I was working 30hrs per week. It all came down to boundary value problems a course I hadn't taken yet but of course I didn't know what went wrong.

I perservered and got my degree but didnt apply to grad school because of it and got a job in software engineering. Still wish I had the chance to do it over without working 30hrs per week that really cut my time to study down.
 

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