Self-study for a beginner: how to pace math vs. physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the self-study approach for a beginner in physics, particularly focusing on how to pace the study of mathematics alongside classical mechanics. Participants explore the necessary mathematical foundations and the feasibility of integrating math and physics study concurrently, considering personal circumstances and prior knowledge.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses the need to revisit high school math and catch up on topics like trigonometry before tackling classical mechanics, suggesting a careful and structured approach to self-study.
  • Another participant shares their experience of successfully studying math and physics in parallel, emphasizing the importance of calculus and linear algebra, along with more advanced topics that they pursued out of personal interest.
  • A third participant notes that basic algebra and trigonometry are typically sufficient for high school physics, indicating that with some focused effort, they could prepare adequately for studying physics.
  • One participant mentions having a specific physics text in mind, suggesting a resource that might align with their learning goals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of mathematics as a foundation for studying physics, but there are differing views on the best approach to pacing the study of both subjects. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal sequence and integration of math and physics study.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of prior knowledge and time availability, which may influence their study strategies. There are also references to personal experiences that highlight different educational backgrounds and approaches to self-study.

Who May Find This Useful

Beginners in physics or mathematics, self-learners looking for study strategies, and individuals with limited time who wish to integrate math and physics learning.

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I'm new to the forums (here's my intro post). Also new to studying physics, though I did do one year in high school many decades back, too far to really count; and in addition have been studying EM & electronics for the past year, but mostly in an applied sense. Aside from enjoying myself, one of my goals is to very very very slowly do enough self-study of classical mechanics so that I can take a more serious dig into my electronics texts; specifically, I'd like a better foundation for concepts such as work, energy, etc. I've gone through this forum & have bookmarked previous posts asking about self-study & will be reviewing those; I've also bookmarked & have begun reading about a half-dozen articles in the "Insights" section pertaining to self-study.

Now for my question: It seems to me that if I were to really be very careful about it, I would need to devote a rather serious length of time to revisiting high school math, plus catching up in some areas I didn't study, e.g. trig, before I could even begin to contemplate taking on classical mechanics at let us say a high school physics level. Yet I am pretty sure that at both the high school & freshman college level, a strictly serial approach is not how it's done; somehow things are managed so as to have students study both subjects together. At my age (59), with my other responsibilities, I don't have as much time as would a full-time student; but I'd still like to know if there is some way to arrange my study such that I could lead off with the math, give it a decent head start, and then at a certain point arrange to begin at least some classical mechanics topics. Opinions & advice welcome, whether pro or con.
 
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UsableThought said:
Now for my question: It seems to me that if I were to really be very careful about it, I would need to devote a rather serious length of time to revisiting high school math, plus catching up in some areas I didn't study, e.g. trig, before I could even begin to contemplate taking on classical mechanics at let us say a high school physics level. Yet I am pretty sure that at both the high school & freshman college level, a strictly serial approach is not how it's done; somehow things are managed so as to have students study both subjects together. At my age (59), with my other responsibilities, I don't have as much time as would a full-time student; but I'd still like to know if there is some way to arrange my study such that I could lead off with the math, give it a decent head start, and then at a certain point arrange to begin at least some classical mechanics topics. Opinions & advice welcome, whether pro or con.

I followed a similar approach many years before, in order to boost math and self - study physics - I have formally undergrad CS education. What is needed in my opinion is Calculus (solve many problems especially in II and III), Linear Algebra (as far as you can get provided you spent really good efforts) and personally I got in more abstract topics like Functional Analysis, Complex Analysis to name a few, just because I like math. Also, after high school, I graduated a two years technical school in Electronics, but the theoretical knowledge was not too deep and the math a little higher than high school (mostly professional education dealing with lots of practical aspects). Through my self study in math and physics afterwards, I can tell that I have a much better grasping of the concepts, even though this is not my main job. So, math is what you need and you can do it in parallel with some study of physics, as the time you have to spare permits. It may take you a long time if you don't have much time to spend but you can do it, if you really like it.
 
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Thanks, @QuantumQuest.

I did some further Googling and looks like the answer to my question about high school physics specifically is fairly simple: all that's typically required for most high schools, it seems, is basic algebra and trig; some deriving of simple functions from graphed data; scientific notation, rounding, significant figures; and vector addition in 2 dimensions.

Since I already do know basic algebra (but am reviewing it), and have done some graphing of functions fairly recently as part of my self-taught electronics curriculum, then all I'd really need math-wise would be a fairly intensive but minimalist exposure to trig, plus the other fairly brief but important topics above. Quite doable w/ a few months hard work, I should think. An appropriate physics text might be. the lighter of the two Crowell books, "Light and Matter".
 

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