Self-Studying Advanced Physics: Challenges & Solutions

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The discussion centers on the challenges and potential pathways for self-studying advanced physics, particularly in the areas of quantum and subatomic physics. Participants explore the necessary mathematical foundations, recommend resources, and consider the role of experiments and mentorship in the learning process.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express that a solid foundation in basic physics and mathematics is crucial before tackling advanced topics like quantum physics.
  • One participant suggests that without prior knowledge, it may be difficult to grasp the significance of concepts in quantum physics.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of having someone to ask questions when self-studying complex subjects.
  • Some participants question the necessity of conducting experiments, with one suggesting that advanced quantum physics can primarily be learned through textbooks and problem-solving.
  • Several participants share their personal backgrounds in mathematics and physics, indicating varying levels of preparedness for advanced study.
  • One participant mentions the challenges of self-study due to a lack of immediate support and guidance, particularly when encountering difficult topics.
  • There are recommendations for specific textbooks and resources, although no consensus on a definitive path is established.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a strong foundation in mathematics and basic physics is important, but there is no consensus on the necessity of experiments or the best approach to self-study. Multiple competing views on the role of mentorship and resources remain present.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations in their mathematical backgrounds, which may affect their ability to tackle advanced topics. There is also mention of the need for a structured curriculum, but no specific recommendations are universally accepted.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for high school students or self-learners interested in pursuing advanced physics topics, particularly those considering self-study methods and resources.

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What kinds of problems might someone encounter in trying to study Advanced Physics (focusing on Quantum/subatomic physics) by themselves from textbooks?

What might be a good path to follow in this?
What math and physics topics/books might you be able to recommend and in what order?

Is doing experiments necessary?
Where might a teacher be required?

Opinions or suggestions about a school website that has a relatively detailed curriculum description could be helpful.
 
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Supaiku said:
What kinds of problems might someone encounter in trying to study Advanced Physics (focusing on Quantum/subatomic physics) by themselves from textbooks?

What might be a good path to follow in this?
What math and physics topics/books might you be able to recommend and in what order?

Is doing experiments necessary?
Where might a teacher be required?

Opinions or suggestions about a school website that has a relatively detailed curriculum description could be helpful.

What is your maths and physics background?
 
limited. I took BC Calc AP, but didn't really study seriously the second semester and the AP physics the AB test got a 5 and the BC test a 1 hehe...
Had different things to think about the second semester of senior year. Since then I've been thinking about those other issues so math hasn't been much of a priority.
 
Do you have any experience in probability and statistics?

Thanks
Matt
 
One can't make suggestions for learning those topics without understanding your background and motivation further. Why is it you want to learn the above topics? (I'm curious...)

Covering your questions anyway, I'd say that the difficulties lie with the fact that the reason they're advanced physics topics is that students need a good foundation before tackling such areas. Whilst the more 'basic' topics covered in a physics degree might not seem directly relevant, physics is about technique. The techniques and thought-processes developed in low-level physics are essential from a planning point of view before something like quantum physics can be tackled.

Without that background it will be difficult for you to obtain a feel for the way quantum physics works and the significance of things you come across. On top of that, you would be best placed to have an excellent understanding of the relevant mathematics.

Otherwise, no, you won't (nor I imagine would it be possible for you to) need to perform any experiments. Quantum physics at this level will completely be book and problem work.
 
I'm currently a junior in high school and self teaching Astrophysics. I picked up the U of Chicago Graduate Physics book (Stellar Structure and Evolution, Kippenhahn and Weigert). I've gone through the first two chapters without having to question my work. However, I've stumbled upon Hydrostatic Equilibrium in General Relativity. This involves deep background in Differential Geometry and Riemann Curvatures. The only problem with self-study (especially in my case) is having no one around you to help you through the problem. I've had to search for a professor to try to walk me through it (ended up asking Physics professor at CalTech). Anyways, what I am trying to say is...at one point you will have to ask a question...just make sure you have someone who can answer it.
 
totalderiv said:
i'm currently a junior in high school and self teaching astrophysics. I picked up the u of chicago graduate physics book (stellar structure and evolution, kippenhahn and weigert). I've gone through the first two chapters without having to question my work. However, I've stumbled upon hydrostatic equilibrium in general relativity. This involves deep background in differential geometry and riemann curvatures.

...amazing...
 
Totalderiv said:
I'm currently a junior in high school and self teaching Astrophysics. I picked up the U of Chicago Graduate Physics book (Stellar Structure and Evolution, Kippenhahn and Weigert). I've gone through the first two chapters without having to question my work.

Good, push hard and don't waste time on things that will hinder you. Take my advice, Videos games are evil...
 
They make me procrastinate.
 
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I recommend you just read up on http://ls.poly.edu/~jbain/philqm/"
 
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