Separable differential equation

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The discussion revolves around finding a singular solution to the differential equation dy/dx = (xy+2y-x-2)/(xy-3y+x-3). Participants are exploring the general solution and techniques for integration after transforming the equation into a separable form.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the transformation of the differential equation into a separable form and the integration techniques that may be applicable. There is also a query regarding the validity of y=1 and y=0 as singular solutions, with some participants expressing disagreement with existing claims.

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Some guidance has been offered regarding techniques for integration, including polynomial long division and manipulation of rational expressions. Multiple interpretations of singular solutions are being explored, particularly concerning y=1 and y=0, with no explicit consensus reached on their validity.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework expectations, which may limit the information available for discussion. The nature of singular solutions is also under scrutiny, with differing opinions on specific cases being presented.

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Homework Statement



I am asked to find a singular solution of the D.E. dy/dx = (xy+2y-x-2)/(xy-3y+x-3). I am first solving to find the general solution form of the D.E., and so far have it to:

[(x+2)/(x-3)]dx = [(y+1)/(y-1)]dy

From here, of course, you integrate both sides, but I am struggilng to find the best technique of integration. Any ideas?



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Syrus said:

Homework Statement



I am asked to find a singular solution of the D.E. dy/dx = (xy+2y-x-2)/(xy-3y+x-3). I am first solving to find the general solution form of the D.E., and so far have it to:

[(x+2)/(x-3)]dx = [(y+1)/(y-1)]dy

From here, of course, you integrate both sides, but I am struggilng to find the best technique of integration. Any ideas?



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The Attempt at a Solution


You can use polynomial long division on each of your two rational expressions, or you can add and subtract the same quantity in each numerator so as to get expressions that are easier to work with. Both techniques produce the same results.

For example, (x + 2)/(x - 3) = (x - 3 + 5)/(x - 3) = (x - 3)/(x - 3) + 5/(x - 3) = 1 + 5/(x - 3). The same sort of idea works with the other rational expression.
 
Thanks Mark. That helped. Can anyone also verify that y=1 is a singular solution to the D.E.?
 
I have solution, which I disagree with, claiming y=0 is a singular solution since, upon substitution, it doesn't seem to produce an identity.
 
Syrus said:
I have solution, which I disagree with, claiming y=0 is a singular solution since, upon substitution, it doesn't seem to produce an identity.
Which should suggest that y = 0 isn't a solution at all.

If y ##\equiv## 0 is a (purported) solution, then it follows that dy/dx ##\equiv## 0. However, if y = 0, from the diff. equation, we have dy/dx = (-x - 2)/(x - 3), which is zero only if x = -2.
 

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