Sequence limit defintion proof

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of a positive sequence \(X=(x_n)\) to a limit \(x\) and the assertion that the sequence of square roots \((\sqrt{x_n})\) converges to \(\sqrt{x}\). Participants are exploring the definition of limits and the implications of the hint provided regarding the relationship between the sequences.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to understand how to derive the hint related to the limit of square roots and are questioning the relationship between the limits of the sequences. There is a focus on the manipulation of the limit definitions and the implications of the fraction involved in the limit process.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the mathematical reasoning behind the limit definitions and the estimation of the fraction's magnitude. Some guidance has been offered regarding the independence of the \(\epsilon\) and \(N\) values in the limit definitions, but further elaboration is requested.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem and are encouraged to explore their reasoning without receiving direct solutions. There is an emphasis on understanding the definitions and relationships involved in the limit process.

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Homework Statement



If ##X=(x_n)## is a positive sequence which converges to ##x##, then ##(\sqrt {x_n})## converges to ##\sqrt x.##

2. The attempt at a solution

I was given a hint: ##\sqrt x_n -\sqrt x = \frac{x_n-x}{\sqrt x_n +\sqrt x}.##

How can I obtain that hint if it were never given to me?

My attempt:

We are given that ##\lim x_n=x.## thus given ##\epsilon>0## there exists an ##N## such that ##|x_n−x|<\epsilon## for all ##n\ge N.##

For ##\lim \sqrt {x_n}=\sqrt x##, given any ##\epsilon>0## there is an ##N## such that ##|\sqrt x_n -\sqrt x|<\epsilon##, for all ##n\ge N## [tex]|\sqrt{x_n} -\sqrt{x}|=\frac{|x_n-x|}{|\sqrt{x_n} +\sqrt{x}|} ...[/tex]

How can I finish this?
 
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Lee33 said:

Homework Statement



If ##X=(x_n)## is a positive sequence which converges to ##x##, then ##(\sqrt {x_n})## converges to ##\sqrt x.##

2. The attempt at a solution

I was given a hint: ##\sqrt x_n -\sqrt x = \frac{x_n-x}{\sqrt x_n +\sqrt x}.##

How can I obtain that hint if it were never given to me?

My attempt:

We are given that ##\lim x_n=x.## thus given ##\epsilon>0## there exists an ##N## such that ##|x_n−x|<\epsilon## for all ##n\ge N.##

For ##\lim \sqrt {x_n}=\sqrt x##, given any ##\epsilon>0## there is an ##N## such that ##|\sqrt x_n -\sqrt x|<\epsilon##, for all ##n\ge N## [tex]|\sqrt{x_n} -\sqrt{x}|=\frac{|x_n-x|}{|\sqrt{x_n} +\sqrt{x}|} ...[/tex]

How can I finish this?

Remember first that your two limit definitions (in your two last lines), one for each sequence does NOT require that the "epsilon" and "N" included are the same quantities in each line. Agreed?

Secondly, in your last line, you have a fraction. Please say what we can estimate about its magnitude, with reference to the definition you set up in your first line.
 
arildno said:
Remember first that your two limit definitions (in your two last lines), one for each sequence does NOT require that the "epsilon" and "N" included are the same quantities in each line. Agreed?

Secondly, in your last line, you have a fraction. Please say what we can estimate about its magnitude, with reference to the definition you set up in your first line.

I did not understand what you meant. Can you elaborate further, please?
 
Lee33 said:

Homework Statement



If ##X=(x_n)## is a positive sequence which converges to ##x##, then ##(\sqrt {x_n})## converges to ##\sqrt x.##

2. The attempt at a solution

I was given a hint: ##\sqrt x_n -\sqrt x = \frac{x_n-x}{\sqrt x_n +\sqrt x}.##

How can I obtain that hint if it were never given to me?
Recognize that ##a-b = (\sqrt{a})^2 - (\sqrt{b})^2##.

My attempt:

We are given that ##\lim x_n=x.## thus given ##\epsilon>0## there exists an ##N## such that ##|x_n−x|<\epsilon## for all ##n\ge N.##

For ##\lim \sqrt {x_n}=\sqrt x##, given any ##\epsilon>0## there is an ##N## such that ##|\sqrt x_n -\sqrt x|<\epsilon##, for all ##n\ge N## [tex]|\sqrt{x_n} -\sqrt{x}|=\frac{|x_n-x|}{|\sqrt{x_n} +\sqrt{x}|} ...[/tex]

How can I finish this?

Lee33 said:
I did not understand what you meant. Can you elaborate further, please?
It would help if you'd identify what exactly you didn't understand. Right now, it just seems like you read what arildno wrote, didn't really think much about it, and simply said "I don't get it."
 
I did not understand what he meant. Which is why I need further elaboration.
 

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