Series expansion of an integral

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the series expansion of the integral function f(r) defined as f(r) = ∫_r^∞ g(t) dt, particularly around the point r = 0. Participants explore the possibility of using series expansions of the function g(t) to derive the series expansion of f(r) without performing the integral directly.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether it is possible to find the series expansion of f(r) around r = 0 using a series expansion of g(t).
  • Another participant suggests finding derivatives of f(r) to aid in the expansion process.
  • A participant expresses concern that the Taylor series cannot be used due to a divergence at r = 0, specifically a 1/r^2 divergence, which makes f(0) undefined.
  • There is a suggestion to consider using Laurent expansion instead, though uncertainty remains about its application.
  • Participants inquire about the specific form of g(t), with one noting that it is complex and not easily integrable, but can be expanded around certain values.
  • One participant indicates a desire to determine specific coefficients in the expansion, particularly the coefficient of the 1/r^2 term and the constant term, rather than the full expansion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of Taylor and Laurent expansions, with some agreeing on the divergence issue while others remain uncertain about how to proceed without knowing the specific form of g(t). The discussion does not reach a consensus on the method to use for finding the series expansion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations due to the divergence of f(r) at r = 0 and the complexity of the function g(t), which affects the ability to apply standard series expansion techniques.

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Given a function g(t), define the function f(r) as follows

f(r) = \int_r^\infty g(t) dt

I want to find the series expansion of f(r) around the point r = 0, without actually doing the integral. Is this possible?

Basically, can i use any particular series expansion of g to find the series expansion of f?
 
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hi praharmitra! :wink:

you want to find every dnf(r)/drn ?

hint: what is df(r)/dr ? :smile:
 
hey tinytim!

I'm afraid we cannot use the usual expression for taylor expansions. You see, the function g(t) that I have does not converge on r=0. I believe there is a 1/r^2 divergence at r=0. So, the first term in the taylor series expansion, which is f(0) is not defined, so we cannot use what u have said.

I was thinking, we could use laurent expansion, but am unsure how to use it.
 
Can you give us what the function g is? Or is this function to complicated?
 
micromass said:
Can you give us what the function g is? Or is this function to complicated?

I don't think I can. Mathematica gave me a 10 line expression for the function. Its not able to integrate it either. However, it can series expand it about the usual values (0, infinity, 1).

So, i was hoping we could figure out the series expansion of f using the series expansion of g.

I'll tell you exactly what I need:

I believe f will diverge about r = 0 as 1/r^2 (from experience on previous similar calculations all of which i could integrate). All I want actually is the coefficient of the 1/r^2 in the expansion and the constant term. I don't want the full expansion really.
 

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