Series - Testing for Convergence / Divergence

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of several series. The original poster presents three series and describes their attempts to apply various convergence tests, including the comparison test, ratio test, and n-th term test.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the comparison test and ratio test to the series but expresses uncertainty about their effectiveness. They question the behavior of the series involving (-1)n and seek clarification on the application of Stirling's formula for the factorial series.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's queries, offering suggestions for alternative comparisons and clarifying misconceptions. There is a recognition of mistakes in the original poster's reasoning, and some participants provide insights into the limits of certain expressions, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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The original poster mentions specific convergence tests they are familiar with and expresses uncertainty about the implications of certain series behaviors, particularly with oscillating terms and factorials. There is also a mention of ignoring finite terms in the context of convergence tests.

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I have a few series which I'm having trouble proving whether they converge or diverge. I know the following tests for convergence: comparison test, ratio test, n-th term test, and root test. Here are the series and what I have tried so far:

\sum n -1 / n2 : I'm assuming this series diverges, since it behaves like 1/n, which also diverges. I'm trying to use the comparison test to see if I can find a "smaller" series which also diverges, but coming up blank. I tried the ratio test to no avail, since it gives 1.

\sum_{n=2}^\infty 1 / (n + (-1)n)2 : I'm really not sure where to begin with this one. The (-1)n is really throwing me off. I'm assuming this converges.

And finally,

\sum n! / nn : I tried the ratio test, canceling out the factorial and getting the ratio of nn / (n + 1)n. This limit seems to be 1, so the ratio test doesn't really help me here. Any suggestions?

Thanks for any help!
 
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For the first one, how about saying (n-1)/n^2>=(n/2)/n^2? Notice that doesn't work for n=1, but that's ok. You can always ignore any finite number of terms. For the second one, your series is LARGER than 1/(2n)^2. That's no good. Being larger than a convergent series doesn't tell you much. How about 1/(n/2)^2? The last one is more delicate. Do you know Stirling's formula?
 
For the third one, n^n/(n+1)^n does NOT approach 1 as n becomes large.
 
Ok, thanks for the help on the first two! I noticed that my series was larger than 1/(2n)^2 right after I posted. Dumb mistake. :redface: I don't know Stirling's formula. Is there another way to go about this?

jhicks, if n^n/(n+1)^n doesn't approach 1, I can only assume it approaches a number less than 1, in which case the series would converge. How could I show this limit is less than 1?
 
jhicks is right. (n/(n+1))^n=1/((n+1)/n)^n=1/(1+1/n)^n. Does that look familiar?
 
Ah, I see it now. Thanks a lot!
 

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