# Seriouslywhat's wrong with some people?

1. Oct 24, 2004

### QuantumTheory

Seriously..what's wrong with some people??

I'm 16 years. Learning to become a professor and teach in quantum theory/and or teach advanced calculus or astrophysics.

I have several physics books, including Calculus For Dummies (for brush up) and several others.

Now, this guy, who I play an online game with called GemstoneIV, is a astrophysics genius. Yet he is such an as*..here is living proof how just because someone is brilliant can be such a total pain in the rear:

LordWarclaidhm: Your a student of Astrophysics?
BubbaUno: yes that's a fake equation
BubbaUno: the summation is going from i = 1 to G
BubbaUno: which can't happen
LordWarclaidhm: oh, thanks. I'm intereseted in physics/quantum theory to
LordWarclaidhm: My real question is..what is some variable/constant with a slash though it mean?
LordWarclaidhm: Never seen that before.
BubbaUno: part of the shrodinger equation
BubbaUno: has to do with wave functions
LordWarclaidhm: I do worry about it bro, I'm gonna be a professor of quantum theory, heh
LordWarclaidhm: Thats my future job
BubbaUno: you'll never make it
LordWarclaidhm: Right.
LordWarclaidhm: Thanks anyway. besides your discouraging comment.
LordWarclaidhm: So you gotta be a wise as* plus insulting at the same time?
LordWarclaidhm: way to go
BubbaUno is idle at 3:25:59 AM.
BubbaUno is no longer idle at 3:26:20 AM.
LordWarclaidhm: Hey, sorry about being a prick earlier.
LordWarclaidhm: I'm studying quantum theory and physics and I did'nt think you realized that
LordWarclaidhm: Interested in the universe.
LordWarclaidhm: You there?
BubbaUno: no
BubbaUno: bye
LordWarclaidhm: ?
LordWarclaidhm: are you mad at me?
BubbaUno: stop talking like my girlfriend geeze
BubbaUno: go to bed
BubbaUno: bye
LordWarclaidhm: Alright. talk to you later
BubbaUno: no
BubbaUno: don't
LordWarclaidhm: How am I talking like your girlfriend?
BubbaUno: you sound like a little bit*h.. are you mad at me?
BubbaUno: shrug
LordWarclaidhm: oh
LordWarclaidhm: sorry
BubbaUno: i'm busy so leave me alone

2. Oct 24, 2004

### dav2008

That's great!

Keep up the good work!

3. Oct 24, 2004

### singleton

Er this probably belongs in the General Discussion forum but I'll bite.

#1 Don't ever get discouraged and don't ever let someone's opinion of you become your opinion of yourself.

#2 You will encounter a lot of arrogance, rudeness, and general mean people in the world of physics and mathematics. Some fields such as these and particularly the CS/IT field are rampant with them so grow some thick skin.

#3 Re-read #2 many times because you will have to battle much more than this in your undergraduate, graduate studies and when presenting your works to other people (they will eat you alive if you make a mistake).

So just relax and realize there will always be a**holes in the world

4. Oct 24, 2004

### graphic7

Indeed, I agree with singleton.

One thing that I've noticed about yourself is that your eager. That's excellent, but it does come along with it's disadvantages. I was like yourself, I wanted to jump ahead and if I needed to learn something as a prerequisite I did, but I often trivialized it. *That* hurt me a lot in the long run.

Also, you might consider becoming an *******, yourself.

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5. Oct 24, 2004

### Fredrik

Staff Emeritus
You have probably figured out the answer to the question you asked him already, but just in case...

$$\hbar$$ is just Planck's constant divided by 2 pi.

That notation is so common that people often prefer to write $$2\pi\hbar$$ rather than just h.

In quantum field theory, there's another kind of slash through the quantities appearing in the equations, but you won't have to worry about that for a long time.

6. Oct 24, 2004

### Chrono

I haven't noticed any of it in that field.

7. Oct 24, 2004

### QuantumTheory

I want to know! Hehe...yes i am too eager.

If I don't know something I drive myself crazy until I know what it is.

8. Oct 24, 2004

### JasonRox

The problem with being eager is that you misjudge the introductory material as not important. People want to jump really far into Calculus, but most of the time they do not even know the definition of continuity, which is very important in my opinion.

Take it one step at a time.

You may look smart knowing a millionth of what they teach in 3rd/4th year university, but you'll look like an idiot not knowing a millionth of high school Physics.

At the moment, I am very eager to go into quantum mechanics, but I decided to just be patient and get my math skills real high, so I don't get held back because I thought it wasn't important.

Like I said, one step at a time. If you take three, well you just missed 2 steps that might have showed you some other neat stuff about physics/math.

9. Oct 24, 2004

### JasonRox

Also, note about the Lord guy.

I don't think he was being a prick. It seemed like you were going for an ego boost. Being (maybe) a university student that he is, he probably doesn't like giving ego boosts all the time.

You are also speaking of a future job. It is nice that you are thinking that far ahead, but you are narrowing your path to that area. I would love to be a prof, but for now, I am in school to learn what I love learn. You should make a 5 year goal, which is considered long term. The goal that you have now, at the age of 16, is a ~15+ year goal, which is considered lifetime commitment. Think about it.

You were also talking like his girlfriend. Being that it was online, you should have just let it go. Instead you were trying to cling to him ... like a girl.

I hate to be the prick, but really, read the post again.

10. Oct 24, 2004

### singleton

I hope that was sarcasm heh.

So many are egotistical, rude, arrogant know-it-alls, at least in the programming part of things.

Some admins are like that too but I'd bet my money programmers have a much higher percentage of it being more prominent.

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11. Oct 25, 2004

### QuantumTheory

An ego boost? What do you mean? I only asked him because I know him in the online game I play, and he is a tried and true ass in that game and out in real life.

The only reason I ask him is I reach out to anyone who even know physics, for help on understanding it. Since I go to a new school now with even the math teacher (who doesn't know calculus) I don't know anyone who I can talk to on a 1 on 1 basis that even knows calculus, let alone physics !

He is always this way. He brags about smoking weed and going to a bar, it's annoying. Especially knowing marjiuana is illegal; and he brags about it like he's tuff.

That reminds me, I do have some questions on phsyics. If anyone here (on this forum) would care to give me a hand, please IM me (On AIM) at LordWarclaidhm .

Thank you so much.

12. Oct 25, 2004

### JasonRox

If you were to ask anyone knowledgeable, they will also say don't worry about, like one of the posters, and tell you to go back to the beginning. You are trying to skip everything.

You say you aren't but I know you are.

13. Oct 25, 2004

### Chrono

Of course, the only one's I've met are my professors. I guess I should get out more.

14. Oct 25, 2004

### JasonRox

I admit my mistakes out loud. It can be so simple, but I'll just say I can't believe I messed up on this. Of course, I usually correct it right afterwards, but I'm always willing to admit that my first approach was wrong. I know some people won't, so they maintain that "I look intelligent look.", but I don't care much about it.

Like I say all the time, enjoy the program/course.

Stop looking at other people and picturing yourself as a better person.

What makes being arrogant a bad thing? Many arrogant people are willing to help you because they want to show off. If they put you down when you get a simple mistake, there is nothing wrong with that since it may be their method of teaching.

Just relax.

Note: Whether it is a successful teaching method or not, it does not matter. It relies on personal opinion, and from I have seen, no one ever asks what teaching method would you like? Not even the nicest person does this. They just go on teaching, assuming their method works, whether it is slow, fast, or rude.

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15. Oct 26, 2004

### Maxwell

Just chill out, man.

Jason is right, you're getting ahead of yourself. If you don't know basic calculus - or have taken a calculus based physics course, you're not going to understand Quantum theory. That's just how it is, no questions about it.

To be honest, you're not going to understand Quantum theory in high school, period! You won't even understand it until maybe 2nd year of your undergraduate studies! And then, it will be basic.

Jason's advice to focus on the lower stuff now is EXCELLENT. Being eager to learn something advanced is great! But you need the tools to understand the more advanced topics.

About this, those are 3 pretty different things. If he's an astrophysics "genius," he probably thinks it's kind of weird that you say stuff like this.

If you want to teach advanced calculus, the courses are generally taught by mathematicians/professors in the math department. If you want to be an astrophysics professor, you'll teach astrophysics courses. You could have some overlap, of course.

Anyway, to get to the point, it's awesome that you're so eager to learn. Don't lose that! But learn the tools first, you need them to achieve your dreams. That way, when you actually make it closer to your goal of teaching Quantum theory, which obviously requires a deep understanding of the subject, it will be so much more beautiful!

Good luck.

16. Oct 26, 2004

### Zantra

Programmers are arrogant right up until they can't login to thier system. Then they whine just like anyone else. The keymaster holds all keys- even the programmers

Actually arrogant or not is only true individually. Chances are the person who is arrogant in IT would be arrogant in any field he chose.

17. Oct 26, 2004

### singleton

Agreed. I guess CS/IT just attracts those sort of individuals more than many other fields though. And perhaps the environment (more alone than with others) cultivates that sort of thing because no one is around to tell you how wrong you are :)

I just try to realize that whatever field I'm in, the more I think I may know there seems to be yet more to be discovered! That keeps me in check and fairly modest I'd say.

18. Oct 26, 2004

### JasonRox

Isn't that cool though?

You think you know alot until you discover a new area, and then you're like... !

19. Oct 26, 2004

### Chrono

That is totally cool. I love that feeling.

20. Oct 28, 2004

Well, dude, I agree that he was being a bit harsh. But keep in mind that being a professor in math or physics for a major University is a HUGE goal. What's more, juding from the fact that you can't distinguish from these rather seperate goals of math, quantom mechanics and astrophysics tells me that you perhaps don't know enough to be that certain about what you really want. Are you sure that a large part of it isn't just taht you seek the intellectual prestige of teaching such a hard subject at a hard University?

I aim to be a math prfoessor in a decent University, and it'll take a lot of work to be that.

Look on the bright side though. You're young and have lots of time. I think that you're brain is still devloping at this point. BUT, I reccomend that you think a little more about what it means to be a professor, and not just the image you might be assosciating with it.

Sure you can learn, but are you good at teaching? Do you really think that you could make new contributions to the feilds?

Anyhow, I tihnk we can all agree that no matter how much fun all these subjects are, you just can't have a PhD knowledge in all of them. (At least, not unless you win the lottery and can afford to spend that long as a student) I'm sure many of us wish we could. So if you really wanna make that goal, it might be a good idea to start narrowing down your interests now.

Peace, good luck, and forgive my rambling. It's late around here.