Set of Points in complex plane

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The problem involves describing a set of points in the complex plane defined by the equation |z - 1 + i| = 1. Participants are exploring the geometric interpretation of this condition.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to apply the triangle inequality to manipulate the equation, while others question the validity of this approach. There is a suggestion to consider the squared form of the equation for simplification. Additionally, participants are encouraged to think about the geometric meaning of the absolute value in relation to distances in the complex plane.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to interpret the problem geometrically. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem asks for a description rather than a solution, which influences their approach to the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Describe the set of points determined by the given condition in the complex plane:
|z - 1 + i| = 1

Homework Equations


|z| = sqrt(x2 + y2)
z = x + iy

The Attempt at a Solution



Tried to put absolute values on every thing by the Triangle inequality
|z| - |1| + |i| = |1|
sqrt(x2 + y2) - 1 + 1 = 1
sqrt(x2 + y2) = 1

Not sure if I'm approaching this question correctly...
 
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The triangle inequality ##|z + w| \leq |z| + |w|## won't help you, because it's an inequality. The set of points with ##|z - 1 + i| = 1## is not the same as the set of points with ##|z| + |1| + |i| = 1##.

A better approach is to recognize that
$$|z - 1 + i| = 1$$
if and only if
$$|z - 1 + i|^2 = 1$$
The squared equation is easier to work with, because for any complex number ##w## we have ##|w|^2 = w\overline w##, where ##\overline w## is the complex conjugate of ##w##.
 
monnapomona said:

Homework Statement


Describe the set of points determined by the given condition in the complex plane:
|z - 1 + i| = 1

Homework Equations


|z| = sqrt(x2 + y2)
z = x + iy

The Attempt at a Solution



Tried to put absolute values on every thing by the Triangle inequality
|z| - |1| + |i| = |1|
sqrt(x2 + y2) - 1 + 1 = 1
sqrt(x2 + y2) = 1

Not sure if I'm approaching this question correctly...

No, you are not: ##|z - 1 + i| = 1## does NOT imply that ##|z| -|1| + |i| = |1|## or anything at all like it. In fact, it is almost always true that ##|z_1 + z_2| \neq |z_1| + |z_2|##.
 
monnapomona said:

Homework Statement


Describe the set of points determined by the given condition in the complex plane:
|z - 1 + i| = 1

Not sure if I'm approaching this question correctly...

It says "describe" the set of points. Try thinking geometrically.
 
PeroK said:
It says "describe" the set of points. Try thinking geometrically.
And along these lines, an important use of the absolute value operation is to indicate the distance between two points. So |z - 1 + i| = 1 could also be written as |z - (1 - i)| = 1.
 

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