Shear and Moment diagram for frame question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around drawing shear and moment diagrams for a frame structure, focusing on determining the reactions at specific joints and verifying the calculations for equilibrium. Participants are engaged in a technical exploration of structural analysis concepts.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance in drawing shear and moment diagrams for a frame with specified connections.
  • Another participant suggests determining the reactions at joints A and D to ensure equilibrium before proceeding with the diagrams.
  • A participant shares their calculated reactions at A (101 kN up and 90 kN to the right) and D (-11 kN downwards), expressing uncertainty about their correctness.
  • Another participant advises checking the equations of equilibrium to validate the reactions.
  • Concerns are raised about the accuracy of the shear diagram, with a request for feedback on its shape.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of verifying the reactions before drawing the diagrams and requests the calculations for clarity.
  • One participant acknowledges the need to redo calculations and plans to sum moments at pin C to reassess their results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the correctness of the calculated reactions and the resulting shear diagram. There is no consensus on the accuracy of the initial calculations, and multiple views on the validity of the diagrams remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing calculations and assumptions regarding the reactions and their impact on the shear and moment diagrams. The discussion reflects a reliance on the principles of equilibrium without definitive resolutions.

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Draw the shear and moment diagrams for each of the three members of the frame. Assume the frame is pin connected at A, C, and D and there is a fixed joint at B.

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Please i need help with this .. would be great if anyone can help
 
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First, determine the reactions at A and D to keep the frame in equilibrium.
 
on A i got 101 KN up and 90 KN to right, at D i got -11 Kn , i am not sure if these are right
 
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Well, that's easy to check.

Take your reactions an see if they equations of equilibrium are satisfied.

If not, rinse and repeat.
 
think i got the reactions correct but I am not sure bout my shear diagram doesn't look right
 
Well, I'm not sure either. You'll have to post it.
 
ok here is what I've drawn so far
 

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It's kinda blurry - can't make out any details at all.
 
dw about the pic uptop just the shear diagram..does the shape look right
 
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How do you know the reactions are right? There is no point drawing the moment and shear diagrams if the reactions are not right. The reactions are checkable. So please send your calcs.
 
  • #11
i already sent my calculations. on reaction A i got 101 KN up and 90 KN to right, on reaction D i got -11 Kn downwards, i am going with these thanks for your help
 
  • #12
I haven't seen calcs for reactions, which I believe are self-evidently not correct. (For example, what is the bending moment at point C? I am sure you would say 'zero' because of the hinge there, but have you checked by taking the algebraic sum of moments on each side of C?)
 
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yes i am re doing the calculations now.. i will take a section at pin C and start summing from there
 

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