Shear and Moment Function Trouble

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the presence of moments in the equilibrium equations for shear and moment diagrams of a beam. Participants explore the conceptual framework behind the application of these equations in the context of a specific homework problem involving a beam subjected to loads.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the inclusion of the moment (M) in the equilibrium equation, suggesting that it may be omitted based on their understanding.
  • Another participant clarifies that M represents an applied moment, which does not have a specific location and can be represented anywhere on the diagram.
  • A further explanation is provided that M and V (shear force) are included in the diagram because they are essential for maintaining equilibrium in the beam segment where a cut is made.
  • It is noted that the equations of equilibrium can be used to derive the shear force and bending moment functions in terms of beam length (L), distributed load (w), and position (x).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of including the moment in the equilibrium equations, with some clarifying its role while others remain uncertain about its application. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the initial participant's concern regarding the moment's inclusion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of moments and forces, as well as the conditions under which equilibrium equations are applied. There are unresolved aspects regarding the interpretation of moments in this context.

Who May Find This Useful

Students and individuals studying mechanics of materials, structural analysis, or related fields may find this discussion relevant, particularly those grappling with the concepts of shear and moment diagrams.

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Homework Statement



In the question (see attached images), it asks me to draw the shear and moment diagrams for the beam shown in the figure. To do this, we use the equilibrium equations. What I do not understand is why M is present in the equilibrium equation for bending. Isn't the pivot point at M? If not, where is it? All three of the moments that can cause bending are present in their equation...


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The Attempt at a Solution



I think that one of the moments should be omitted. However, I am likely wrong as both a textbook and my Prof have all 3 moments in there. I would greatly appreciate an explanation of the proper logic. Thanks.
 

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hi 1question! :smile:

i think M represents an applied moment, not an applied force

as a moment (a couple), it has no location

you can think of it as two equal and opposite forces of strength F
and a distance h apart, with Fh = M

clearly, the position of those two forces (in a particular plane), makes no difference

(eg if one is at the pivot point, the other must be h above or below it)

since it makes no difference where you put it, it can be shown anywhere on the diagram

in practice, you show it where the clamp (etc) is, since that's actually where the opposite forces are being applied! :wink:
 
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Oh. That makes a lot of sense. Thank you Tim!
 
M and V represent the shear force and the bending moment which develop as a result of the distributed load on the beam. They are included in the diagram because they contribute to the equilibrium of the free body of the beam segment where the cut is made. By writing the equations of equilibrium as shown in the Solution Box, you are able to determine V(x) and M(x), the shear force and bending moment functions, in terms of L, w, and position x.
 

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