Shell Method Vol: Find Volume from 0 to 2

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The discussion revolves around using the shell method to find the volume of a solid generated by revolving regions bounded by the curves \( Y = |x|/3 \) and \( Y = 1 \) about the x-axis. Participants are exploring the correct setup for the integral and addressing potential errors in their calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to set up the integral for the shell method, questioning the limits of integration and the formula for the area of the typical shell. There are discussions about whether to integrate the left or right side of the function and how to properly account for the height of the shell.

Discussion Status

There are multiple interpretations of the problem setup, with some participants suggesting corrections to the original attempts. Guidance has been offered regarding the need for accurate sketches of the region and the solid, as well as clarifications on the correct expressions for the radius and height of the shells. The discussion is ongoing, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share. There is uncertainty regarding the correct limits of integration and the setup of the integral, leading to varied results in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


Use the shell method to find the volume of the solid generated by revolving the regions bounded by the curves and the lines about the x-axis.

Homework Equations


Y=|x|/3 , Y=1

The Attempt at a Solution


1. 2∏∫(0 to 2) (y) (Y/4 - (-Y/4)) dy
2. y^3/6] (0 to 2)

Answer: 8∏/3 (which is wrong). the correct answer is 4∏ but I'm not sure how they go there.
 
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whatlifeforme said:

Homework Statement


Use the shell method to find the volume of the solid generated by revolving the regions bounded by the curves and the lines about the x-axis.


Homework Equations


Y=|x|/3 , Y=1


The Attempt at a Solution


1. 2∏∫(0 to 2) (y) (Y/4 - (-Y/4)) dy
The above is incorrect. The upper limit of integration is not 2, and your formula for the area of the typical area element is also wrong. How did you get y/4?

As I mentioned in another thread, you need to draw a reasonably accurate sketch of the region that is being rotated, and another sketch of the solid that is produced.
whatlifeforme said:
2. y^3/6] (0 to 2)

Answer: 8∏/3 (which is wrong). the correct answer is 4∏ but I'm not sure how they go there.
Using the correct setup, I get a volume of 4π as well.
 
1. 2∏∫(0 to 1) (y) (Y/3 - (-Y/3)) dy

would that be correct. i solved the equation for x=. also, is the upper limit of integration 1?
 
i also tried integrating just the right side and multiplying by two.

2* 2∏∫(0 to 1) (y) (Y/3) dy

which i get the answer of 4pi/9.

1.if i draw a section parallel to the axis of revolutoin. the distance (radius) is y. thus the first part of the equation is right.

2.the height of the section would be the distance from (-y/3) on the left to (y/3). however, if i take just the right section of the absolute value function (y/3), and integrate, and multiply by two (2). then i should have the right value.
 
whatlifeforme said:
i also tried integrating just the right side and multiplying by two.

2* 2∏∫(0 to 1) (y) (Y/3) dy
Better, but still not right. If y = (1/3)|x|, then |x| = 3y, not y/3.
whatlifeforme said:
which i get the answer of 4pi/9.

1.if i draw a section parallel to the axis of revolutoin. the distance (radius) is y. thus the first part of the equation is right.

2.the height of the section would be the distance from (-y/3) on the left to (y/3).
No. It's 2x, which is not equal to 2y/3.
whatlifeforme said:
however, if i take just the right section of the absolute value function (y/3), and integrate, and multiply by two (2). then i should have the right value.
You will if you use the correct value for the width of your shell.
 

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