Ship and Iceberg - Speed of sound question

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the distance from a ship to an iceberg based on the time taken for an echo to return after the ship's horn is blown. The context includes varying temperatures of air, ice, and water, and the speed of sound in these mediums is a key factor in the calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relevance of different mediums (air, water, ice) and their temperatures to the speed of sound. There is a focus on whether the presence of water vapor in fog affects the speed of sound in air.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights regarding the impact of water content on the speed of sound in air, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the mediums involved. There is no clear consensus on the correct approach to determining the speed of sound needed for the calculation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion is constrained by the need for specific temperatures and mediums, as well as the ambiguity introduced by the presence of fog. Participants are navigating these factors without a definitive resolution.

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Homework Statement



17.While cruising the North Atlantic in a fog, a ship blew its horn, and received an echo from an iceberg 4.0 s later. The temperature of the air was 5°C, the temperature of the iceberg was 0°C, and the temperature of the water was 2°C In order to calculate the distance from the ship to the iceberg, the captain must also know the speed of sound in:

A.
ice at 0°C.
B.
water at 2°C.
C.
water at 0°C.
D.
air at 0°C.
E.
air at 5°C.



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The Attempt at a Solution



If there were no fog the answer would definitely be E, but since there is a significant
amount of water in the air I thought the answer was B.

Turns out the water doesn't make a difference because the answer sheet says E. :confused:
Could somebody please explain?
 
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fchen720 said:
If there were no fog the answer would definitely be E, but since there is a significant
amount of water in the air I thought the answer was B.

Turns out the water doesn't make a difference because the answer sheet says E. :confused:
Could somebody please explain?
Water content has some effect on the speed of sound in air so to be perfectly accurate you should have the speed of sound in saturated air at 5° C. But I expect it is not much different than the speed of sound in dry air at the same temperature.

AM
 
fchen720 said:

Homework Statement



17.While cruising the North Atlantic in a fog, a ship blew its horn, and received an echo from an iceberg 4.0 s later. The temperature of the air was 5°C, the temperature of the iceberg was 0°C, and the temperature of the water was 2°C In order to calculate the distance from the ship to the iceberg, the captain must also know the speed of sound in:

A.
ice at 0°C.
B.
water at 2°C.
C.
water at 0°C.
D.
air at 0°C.
E.
air at 5°C.



Homework Equations



n/a

The Attempt at a Solution



If there were no fog the answer would definitely be E, but since there is a significant
amount of water in the air I thought the answer was B.

Turns out the water doesn't make a difference because the answer sheet says E. :confused:
Could somebody please explain?
The sound is traveling through what medium? What is the temperature of that medium?
 
While foggy air certainly contains more water than dry air, I think you'll agree it doesn't have anywhere close to as much water in it as the sea.
 
Thanks to everyone who answered.
 

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