Ships A & B Separating: A Math Problem

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The problem involves two ships, A and B, traveling at different speeds and directions, with the goal of determining how fast they are separating at a specific time. Ship A travels north at 10 knots, while Ship B travels east but its speed is unknown. The scenario is set around a buoy that both ships pass at different times.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relevance of converting knots to km/h and question the necessity of such a conversion. There is uncertainty about Ship B's speed, with some suggesting that the time difference between the ships passing the buoy could provide insight into B's speed. Others point out the lack of distance information needed to solve the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between time and distance for Ship A, but the overall speed of Ship B remains unclear. There is no consensus on how to proceed without additional information about Ship B's speed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not provide the speed of Ship B, which is critical for determining the separation rate. There is also a discussion about the implications of using knots as a unit of measurement.

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Homework Statement



Ship A travels at 10 knots on a due north course and passes a buoy at 8am. Ship B, traveling on a due east course passes the same buoy at 10am. How fast are the ships separating at 12 am?

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I'm not familiar with knots and don't know what knots are in km/h. Also, how fast is Ship B traveling then?
 
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Why would you want to change to km/h? The problem doesn't require that you do. A "knot" is, as the problem implies, a unit of speed (it is one nautical mile per hour but you don't need to know that either to do the problem- just give the answer in knots).

However, in your second question you hit on the difficulty. You can't possibly answer this without know how fast ship B is traveling and apparently that is not given.
 
Would it be possible to find the speed of B by comparing the time it takes for both A and B to pass the buoy?
 
bondgirl007 said:
Would it be possible to find the speed of B by comparing the time it takes for both A and B to pass the buoy?

I don't see how you could. You know nothing of the distanced traveled (which is what you are really after in the first place).
 
stewartcs said:
I don't see how you could. You know nothing of the distanced traveled (which is what you are really after in the first place).

The time is 4 hours so can't you multiply that by 10 knots to find the distance of A?
 
bondgirl007 said:
The time is 4 hours so can't you multiply that by 10 knots to find the distance of A?

Sure, but that won't tell you the speed of B. It will tell you the distance traveled by A which is one part of the problem. If you knew the speed of B, you could take the same approach and find the distance traveled by B (B's speed x 2 hours).

Then you could use that information to find the rate of change between the two by using the Pythagorean theorem (differentiating it of course).
 
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