Short in Wires with 2 Different Resistances

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The problem involves determining the location of a short in an underground telephone cable consisting of two wires. The cable is 6.00 km long, and resistance measurements between different terminals are provided: 10.00 Ohm between terminals AB and 95.00 Ohm between terminals CD. The goal is to find the distance from point C to the short.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between resistance and length, with one suggesting to express the resistance in terms of the distance of the short from point C. Others question the meaning of constants involved and the implications of using two wires in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on how to set up equations based on the resistance measurements, while others express confusion about the constants and the equations being used. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of voltage information and the ambiguity regarding the attachment of terminals AB and CD. There is also discussion about the physical properties of the wires and how they relate to resistance.

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Homework Statement


An underground telephone cable, consisting of a pair of wires, has suffered a short somewhere along its length (at point P in the Figure). The telephone cable is 6.00 km long, and in order to determine where the short is, a techician first measures the resistance between terminals AB; then he measures the resistance across the terminals CD. The first measurement yields 10.00 Ohm; the second 95.00 Ohm. Where is the short? Give your answer as a distance from point C.



Homework Equations


I = V/R
Vtotal = I (R1 + R2)
ohm = V/A


The Attempt at a Solution


Honestly, I have no idea where to even start with this question. I would know how to calculate the total voltage, but this problem doesn't give any voltage, and I don't know what length the ohm refers to? Also, it doesn't even look like AB are attached or CD are attached. Can someone help get me started? Thanks! I attached a picture of the problem.
 

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The resistance of a wire is proportional to the length of the wire.
If x km is the distance of the short from C, then
95 ohm = k*2x.
Similarly write down the expression for the resistance across AB and solve for x.
 
What is k? The 8.98*10^9 constant?
 
and did you use 2x because there are two wires?
 
skibum143 said:
What is k? The 8.98*10^9 constant?
Νο. You know that
R = ρ*L/A. So k = ρ/Α, which is constant for a given wire.
 
Oh, I knew the resistance = ro*length / pi r^2, but i didn't know what Resistance is ro*length over area?
 
Sorry, I'm still completely confused. I'm not sure what I'm solving for using the second equation...
 
At P thew wires are short. If the CP = x. Length of the wire CPD = 2x. So the esiatance of this wire is
R(CD) = (ρo/A)*2x. Similarly
R(AB) = (ρo/A)*2(L-x).
Solve these two equations to find x.
 

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